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Old 6th Aug 2019, 17:55
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The OP has a friend that was a door gunner and he asked about some war stories.

Gary Wetzel was a Door Gunner on a Huey Helicopter and was assigned to the 173rd Assault Helicopter Company (The Robinhoods) based at Lai Khe in III Corps Military District a bit north of Saigon.

I will let the video tell his story.....as it is he who is telling it.

He exemplifies the kind of Soldier I was so honored to be allowed to serve with during those difficult times.

His unit was one of the Huey Companies in my Battalion.


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Old 6th Aug 2019, 19:06
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Now that guy is a proper American hero



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As you know, Aug 4 was the 50th anniversary of my return from my Vietnam tour.

Class 68-9 did its part and now...Geezers indeed.
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From my perspective, the Ken Burns doc was nothing but updated 60's anti-war/anti-military propaganda.

Pathetic effort really.
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The Shark guns of the 174th AHC took 6 Charlie-model Huey gunships into Laos as part of Lam Son 719. 4 were left in Laos. I'd post a link to the story but as a newby to the forum I can't post links yet.
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I believe the link that Shark 4 is referring to is this one. It takes you to the unit website and the story to which I think he is referring.

Take a wander through the entries at the web site....there be some real stories involving the Lam Son 719 operation that went into Laos.

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Old 7th Aug 2019, 11:55
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SAS, thanks for the Gary Wetzel video. Our gunners were assigned from the 25th ID ( 65-66 ) and listening to Gary speak, I saw him speaking for all of the guys who were the Huey gunners, over all those years.
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Note: "Danger Close- The Battle of Long Tan" opens in Cinemas in Oz tomorrow and I am reliably informed it will debut in the United States on November 8th.

I hope to be at one of the first showings.

It is interesting that date was chosen as that day holds special meaning to me.

Specialist Sixth Class Lawrence Joel, US Army....a Medic in the 173rd Airborne Brigade was awarded The Medal of Honor for his valorous conduct during a combat action on that date in 1965.

Lawrence was from my home town and later worked with our Veteran's Administration where he continued helping his fellow Soldiers.

We have named a Convention Center in his honor and every time commercial interests attempt to re-name it....the community turns out in force to prevent that from happening.




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Old 7th Aug 2019, 22:51
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Note: "Danger Close- The Battle of Long Tan" opens in Cinemas in Oz tomorrow and I am reliably informed it will debut in the United States on November 8th.

I hope to be at one of the first showings.

It is interesting that date was chosen as that day holds special meaning to me.

Specialist Sixth Class Lawrence Joel, US Army....a Medic in the 173rd Airborne Brigade was awarded The Medal of Honor for his valorous conduct during a combat action on that date in 1965.

Lawrence was from my home town and later worked with our Veteran's Administration where he continued helping his fellow Soldiers.

We have named a Convention Center in his honor and every time commercial interests attempt to re-name it....the community turns out in force to prevent that from happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozpdBvB0hek





Off now to the first showing (stand fast all the pre-release invites to those who deserve)

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Old 8th Aug 2019, 00:09
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I’m seeing my friend (that I first started this thread about) at 5.30 am tomorrow morning, my first question will be what unit! Will let you know
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 00:16
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Not so much a helicopter theme but requests for war stories about Vietnam so not surprising it has drifted somewhat

Hey Crab, I think we are all slightly guilty of thread drifts and as you do we all to seem to go with the flow.
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 01:56
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Any other information would be helpful too....Unit, the years he was in country, base camp he was stationed at.....all that helps in sorting through sources looking for some coorrelations

Any other Pilot names too....or crewmen.....that might lead to someone that can help.
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Any other information would be helpful too
You can never have too much info. Flew with a chap who claimed to have flown VN but when questioned couldn't remember his unit nor where based. Could post his name, but don't think anything would come of it.
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Outing a Walt is always good fun.....done the right way and in the right company.....and while the Walt is banging on about his heroics to the un-knowing.

Once ran across such a guy...wearing US Army Aviator Wings and bragging about being a Vietnam War Huey Pilot.

Engaged him in conversation in front of his admiring circle of friends....lead him on to talk all about the Huey to include its wonderful but very troublesome turbine powered APU unit that was inside the tailbone.

When he ragged on about that for a bit.....I explained quite clearly why I did not believe a word he was saying.

Two quick questions about what Flight School Class and his unit assignment in Vietnam and even the witnesses to the conversation grasped there was a problem when I pointed out the inaccuracies.

As I removed the Silver pin on wings from his jacket....I told him he should not ever wear them in public again and damn sure not in front of me or he had better grind all the sharp edges smooth as it lessens the pain when I or some other real Vietnam War Combat Pilot shoved them up his hind end.

Yes....out the Walt...but do it the right way.

In the United States there is a "Stolen Valor" law that allows criminal sanctions for those who falsely claim some "real" benefit due to their false claims...such as Housing Loans, Disability payments, Tax Exemptions but not just for the mere false claim to having been a Combat Veteran.
The Stolen Valor Act of 2013 was signed by President Barack Obama on June 3, 2013. The Act makes it a federal crime to fraudulently claim to be a recipient of certain military decorations or medals in order to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit.
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 19:32
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Nomorehelos - seems to have come rather excellently back on theme now though
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Old 10th Aug 2019, 04:16
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Originally Posted by John Eacott
Off now to the first showing (stand fast all the pre-release invites to those who deserve)

https://youtu.be/_E0J11-rB7Q


Above a photo of the OZ line (161 Recce) at Nui Dat
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Old 10th Aug 2019, 04:50
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Originally Posted by megan
You can never have too much info. Flew with a chap who claimed to have flown VN but when questioned couldn't remember his unit nor where based. Could post his name, but don't think anything would come of it.
Not everyone who worked in SE Asia flew for a "unit".
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Old 10th Aug 2019, 05:41
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Originally Posted by Old Dogs
Not everyone who worked in SE Asia flew for a "unit".
Yeah, he was probably a recreational flyer.
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Originally Posted by LRP
Yeah, he was probably a recreational flyer.
Some folks might call it that.
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Old 10th Aug 2019, 07:10
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Old Dogs.
I assume you are saying, in so many words, “Air America”.
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