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Old 12th Jul 2019, 12:28
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R44 Missing North of Montreal

https://globalnews.ca/news/5486420/q...r-son-missing/
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https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/savoura-...ight-1.4504767
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I'm sure Arena are well pleased they have their aircraft at the top of this article!
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Are there anymore updates on this, it’s been a few days now?

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4 hours ago still not found but search (20,000 sq km) continues. Tragic that in the 21st century an owner/operator would trust the infallibility of an ELT, while studiously ignoring the overwhelming advantage of satellite tracking. For a $200 tracker all those search resources would be focussed on 8 sq.
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Perhaps they should be made required equipment....or owners be billed for all searching done outside that 8-10 Mile area where the aircraft is ultimately found?

Perhaps it is time for the authorities to re-think the Certification Requirements for real....and embrace new technology for real.
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If there is any form of cell coverage (or they passed any enroute), the mobile phone company should be able to triangulate the last reported position to at least narrow the area down.
$200 devices miraculously become $10000 devices once they have to be certified, something a cost-sensitive market tends to avoid.
Someone should be able to produce a simple standard device that can transmit this data and some inflight telemetry to help with accident analysis and missing aircraft.
If clever people can make a high-speed train run in a vacuum then this can't be a tough ask.
It does boggle the mind how backwards aviation can be.
Then again if you're puttering around with 60-year old engine technology you'd probably still consider a wind up clock revolutionary.
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There is such a device.
https://www.spidertracks.com/
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Originally Posted by nomorehelosforme
Are there anymore updates on this, it’s been a few days now?

https://www.facebook.com/stephaneroyetfilsdisparus/
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There is such a device.
A far cheaper solution is the SPOT Messenger
The majority of gliders carry them and many GA aircraft. No certification required, just like mobile phones.
A slightly more expensive option is the Garmin Delorme unit which even allows you to send text messages via the Iridium network.
I am paranoid and carry one of each in my motorglider at all times flying all over remote areas of Australia.
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Originally Posted by Karijini49
A far cheaper solution is the SPOT Messenger
The majority of gliders carry them and many GA aircraft. No certification required, just like mobile phones.
A slightly more expensive option is the Garmin Delorme unit which even allows you to send text messages via the Iridium network.
I am paranoid and carry one of each in my motorglider at all times flying all over remote areas of Australia.
Quite. You can’t be paranoid enough!

While the Garmin inReach device is more expensive than the Spot device, the picture may turn around when you take data subscription costs into consideration. For the Garmin, you find several third party Value added services (VAS) providers, offering a variety of flexible data plans available.

Garmin inReach doesn’t only allow to send free-text messages, but most importantly allows 2-way communication. You know whether your message was received, and your people can tell you that they will come out and help.

L’espoir fait vivre.
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“Rescue” helicopter crashes

looks like an EC130, wasn’t even in the bush. From the Facebook link I’d gathered that a number of “volunteers” were assisting with the search.
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“Rescue” helicopter crashes

looks like an EC130, wasn’t even in the bush. From the Facebook link I’d gathered that a number of “volunteers” were assisting with the search.
The aft crosstube on that 130 looks flatter / more spread than normal. Maybe it was a heavy landing and a rollover resultant from that?
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Are there areas of excessive gravity up there?
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Aircraft Tracking

See the attached map of our recent Pledge a Pint tour of the UK. The journey was live tracked by several devices so that base knew where we were at all times.

The following links will allow you look at any of these products which are reasonably priced.

https://explore.garmin.com/en-GB/inreach/

https://www.spidertracks.com/

Rock Seven | Truly global GPS tracking and messaging systems using Iridium satellite | RockAIR

Rock Seven | Truly global GPS tracking and messaging systems using Iridium satellite | RockSTAR

https://www.iridium.com/products/iridium-go/

https://www.iridium.com/products/iridium-extreme-ptt/

Hope something fits the bill for those of you seeking this type of technology.

NB. I am not specifically recommending any of these products, nor do I have any commercial interest in selling them - merely suggesting solutions to the requirement.
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Aircraft found yesterday (July 25) in dense forest, pilot and son found dead at the site.

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sad result, but not unexpected at this point.
RIP and condolences to the families and friends.
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Canadian Accident Report

Interesting.https://tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor.../a19q0109.html
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cant get it to work?
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Whole TSB server is down
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