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Bullets rip through Colombian military helicopter windshield mid flight.

Old 11th Jul 2019, 09:41
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 11:12
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Had a .51 Cal round remove the left pedal from under my foot....I can arrest to the notion such events gain your full completely undivided attention until the hydraulic fed fire draws it away!
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 11:22
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Wow! What happened after that??
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 12:11
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I dare say that SASless had the means at his disposal to return the complement a few times over....
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 12:51
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My Dad, Mike Tuson, was flying for the Oman Airforce around 1972, during the Dhofar rebellion. He was flying a 205 and got one of his toes shot off in flight. He always reckoned it saved his life, because when he sat back up from reaching down to his foot, there was a bullet hole through the canopy that would have hit his head if he hadn’t bent down.
He flew till he was 60, and died this March, age 85.
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 13:22
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I dare say that SASless had the means at his disposal to return the complement a few times over....

Errrrr.....not actually....two GPMG's (M-60 Door Guns) were only there for psychological warfare purposes...it made the air crew feel good but generally did zero harm to the Oppo's.

On that particular occasion I had my hands quite full dealing with some management problems....managing a roaring hot fire cockpit fire while in and out of cloud with a sling load dangling underneath the Chinook.

Heck....we never even mentioned a Checklist yet alone refer to it.

No murderous thoughts that time....earlier that morning it was a bit different.

I just could not understand why total strangers were so intent upon doing me in....if they had met me first then it might have made far more sense to me.
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 14:15
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Well, there was your operational difficulty. You obviously weren't low enough if you were flying in and out of cloud, so there was no way for the Oppo's to see your psychological warfare apparatuses hanging out the door. Failing that option, you obviously weren't high enough up in the clouds for the Oppo's to not quite reach you with their apparatuses!
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Old 11th Jul 2019, 14:18
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And there's another good reason for the captain to occupy the righthand seat in a helicopter: uninformed gunmen will target your co-pilot first!

On a more serious note, looks like a pretty good outcome, considering the possibilities.
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 01:08
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One hell of a way for Boeing to install cockpit heating SAS. Upon arrival in country we noticed one of the pilots had an unusual hair cut, a quarter or so inch of hair removed running around his head just above both ears. Round had come in through the windscreen, entered the space twix helmet and head, ran around his head/helmet and exited other side and out through the windscreen. Closest they got to me was a shot in the back in an ambush where 50% of the troops died stepping off.




And there's another good reason for the captain to occupy the righthand seat in a helicopter: uninformed gunmen will target your co-pilot first!
Tradition in US Army slicks was for the aircraft commander to occupy the left seat, but I always rode right seat cause Charlie would reckon I was the copilot. To be honest, I had other reasons for preferring right seat.
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 10:02
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Is it just me or does there not seem much urgency about their response to taking ground fire? I would be heading for the tree tops in the opposite direction with the collective under my armpit.
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Old 12th Jul 2019, 13:03
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Sometimes you just got to grin and bear it....like hoisting wounded...dropping repellers....or lifting downed aircraft.

But most times....Same has figured out the right answer....where the Torque Gauge becomes the amount of droop in your Rotor System and not what shows on the instrument panel!

No matter how Vietnam War Helicopter pilots like to embellish on occasions....one thing is for sure...when you are getting shot at AND taking hits....there is nothing "Normal" about that operation and red lines become something to talk about after the fact.

Usually it happens so fast, despite time coming to a pace about equal to a Molasses spill on a very cold February morning in the Arctic....you really only to get deal with the aftermath.

Watching Tracers...really large tracer bullets come up and whiz by is an interesting thing to contemplate both during and after it happens.

I do not condone that and suggest watching Hollywood films is as close as you really want to come in experiencing that.

Beer gains a new level of appreciation in the bar at night when you see them (the tracers) first hand.
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SAS, you wrote: “ there is nothing "Normal" about that operation and red lines become something to talk about after the fact.”

A USAF HH-5C pilot named Donald Carty came up to SA to help us complete a flight loads survey data flight while hooked into a C-130 ( something new to yours truly ). We were talking one day about the inaccuracies our H53 project pilot had found in the cruise guide system at higher speeds and higher altitudes with the new -7 engines. Discussion got around to your subject of red lines. Well, Don had been “ up north “ one day and was being chased by a MIG. He dived at a cloud as that was his only possible salvation. I asked him about what his weight was and how fast he had gone. He said that he had no idea what the speed was as his total concentration was getting to that cloud as fast as he could. He did offer that the vibration level was something he hadn’t experienced before or since. They gave the ship a thorough inspection upon return ( he made it to the cloud and evaded the MIG ) without result. SAS, you are on point: there may occur a situation where the limitations as published become academic.




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Old 13th Jul 2019, 00:20
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there may occur a situation where the limitations as published become academic
As once done taking off with zero engine oil pressure. Mr Lycoming lasted long enough to save four crew.

Rule 27 from the combat pilots handbook - The aircraft limits are only there in case there is another flight planned for that particular airplane. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no limits.
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