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Old 6th Jan 2019, 05:42
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Geelong Helicopter accident Waterfront 6/1/18

9 News claims Geelong Helicopter undershot the pad on landing and ended up in the drink this afternoon. Nobody Injured. VH-HYX Robinson R44 Raven
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A year ago?
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R44 takes a long time to sink...
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Safe outcome due to having fixed floats

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Safe outcome due to having fixed floats
Fixed floats? Since when did fixed floats result in the heli-belly sitting in salt water?
I'd suggest they are emergency pop-out floats.
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Fixed floats? Since when did fixed floats result in the heli-belly sitting in salt water?
I'd suggest they are emergency pop-out floats.
I was thinking the same thing until I googled fixed floats on a 44 and found our cousins at Rotorheads discussed this a while back.

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Originally Posted by gulliBell View Post
Fixed floats? Since when did fixed floats result in the heli-belly sitting in salt water?
I'd suggest they are emergency pop-out floats.
No, they re fixed floats on that machine. I have seen it.

But what looks scary is the fact that the rotors look to be running in that pic (blades are straight), and the tail rotor looks awfully close to those rocks!!!!
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In that case I'm very surprised a fixed float STC that by design has the helicopter sitting in salt water would get approved (BTW I'm a fixed float qualified helicopter pilot, just not on the robo-flimsycopter).

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..But what looks scary is the fact that the rotors look to be running in that pic (blades are straight), and the tail rotor looks awfully close to those rocks!!!!
It would be even scarier trying to start it that close to those rocks.
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From the RFM...

and this....


The floats are NOT CERTIFIED FOR DITCHING...seriously, am I missing something here???
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I'm curious to find out what they were doing. Assuming the engine is running and producing power. Never in my wildest dreams would I believe anybody would do float training on salt water.
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Somebody obviously knows something. Nobody is saying anything.
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The floats are NOT CERTIFIED FOR DITCHING...seriously, am I missing something here???
I would love to see a couple QCs argue the purpose of these floats after the event.
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It's probably the Ozzie equivalent of a Tuk-Tuk, Rickshaw - the Wobby Water Taxi?
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I wonder if the WWT offers discount for BYO gaffa tape? Would taping it up i.a.w the RFM to minimize the risk of sinking it during fixed float training be permitted pilot maintenance, or would it require a mechanic to do it and sign it off in the technical log?
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You would call them "fixed emergency floats" then?
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And now ask yourself what the outcome would have been if the aircraft didn’t have those floats. In an emergency any device that safes your a.. is a usefull device.
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I would love to see a couple QCs argue the purpose of these floats after the event.
Many airliners do not have slide rafts at all doors, they may just have slides at some doors. Those slides are not certified for ditching, however in an emergency they can be used as a flotation aide.

I would suggest these emergency flotation devices have not been certified, meaning they have not gone through through the full process, however as is evidenced here they can be a meaningful safety aide in some situations. In other situations they may not have the strength to support the water impact.
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I know of an R44 which landed in knee deep water in the Kimberley’s during a flood evacuation years ago & that’s where it stayed as the engine sucked water up through the air cleaner. Once it was back on dry ground it was found that the seal around the filter wasn’t quite up to scratch. Looking at those photos of the machine sitting in the water I’d be worried about getting back off the water again, which makes the floats a single use item in my books!
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