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Old 14th Jan 2019, 17:26
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Snakepit - well that is where the top-drawer SAR QHCIs not employed in UKSAR are
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 17:56
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Snakepit - well that is where the top-drawer SAR QHCIs not employed in UKSAR are
Indeed they are and what a good bunch too 👍.
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Old 14th Jan 2019, 21:41
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Asking candidates to undertake certain exams at their own expense prior to start. It really is Ryanair with blades. Absolute cheek
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 01:18
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The contract is due to start transitioning out in 2023 and runs through to 2026 but can be extended. The paramedic qualification changes in 2021 and there may be some pressure to get bums on seats, sorry, ar5es hanging out the door, before that takes effect.

The previous supply is in the course of drying up, market forces are against them, sub-contractors are expensive, alternative jobs are on land or in interesting places with warmer water, ...

It may require some luck to keep this on the rails.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 08:31
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Hi, what changes are expected in 2012
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 09:55
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Hi, what changes are expected in 2012
From the 1st Sept 2021 (I am assuming this is what you mean't Piper and not 2012?) any paramedic course must teach to level 6 (bachelor degree). Current courses are at L5 (Foundation degree or Cert of Higher Ed). This only affects students starting new courses from 1st Sept onward. All older courses will lose the approval to teach paramedics. There is no effect on those already on the register.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 09:55
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As I understand it, for existing paramedics no change - but the only route to getting a paramedic qual after 2021 will be through the degree course rather than doing on the job training as a technician.

Hedski - agreed but it's all about the costs and downloading as much risk and cost to the applicant rather than the company
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 15:34
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Yeah sorry 2021, finger problem. Lol
Thanks.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 18:05
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Hey Crab, what if the navy guys were right all along about it just being posh hovering?
They could swap the salaries around between the front and rear seats and they'd get all the paramedics they ever dreamed of.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 19:03
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Morning all,

First post so be gentle! It mentions on the pack...

'DO NOT START the application process if you are unwilling to undertake and pass (at your own expense) the PPL(H) Meteorology and Navigation exams prior to attendance at Selection.'

What would the cost of this be any ideas been phoning around a few places and pretty much got chinned off!
Cost of this should not be significant - if it's PPLH (very different story if it's CPLH) - for anyone with a decent level of school education. Buy the books and self study then bung an instructor a few quid for a couple of hours revision and you should be fine.
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 20:25
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They could swap the salaries around between the front and rear seats and they'd get all the paramedics they ever dreamed of.
yes, you can tell the head guys involved in the bid were pilots and not rearcrew.........They could have swopped 10 -15K from front to rear and still had full take-up of all the positions. I'm amazed any of the RN Observers went across.
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 09:57
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... ... I'm amazed any of the RN Observers went across.
Probably just curiosity.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 17:25
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The salary guide is out in the latest information pack.
Better than I thought but unlikely to tempt existing mil paramedics over.
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So how much is it?
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What they should be doing is offering sponsorship through paramedic training for those who can pass a basic rearcrew selection process - then pay them as they train using the summer holidays as opportunities to send them to SAR flights to gain experience in the aviation role.

That way at the end of the process they have suitable candidates with both paramedic and flying experience - not rocket science but takes planning.
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Whilst undertaking FSTD training the Training Salary will be £28,500 PA; this is expected to last c. 9 months. Once the training moves to the aircraft you will move to the Cadet Pay Scale which, including Paramedic Allowance, begins at £36,400. During the course of the five year Cadet Pay Scale there are annual increments which currently expect the Cadet scale to finish at £41,500. After the Cadetship the successful applicant will move to SAR Paramedic Winch Crew Pay Scale which currently starts at £42,700 (including Paramedic Allowance) with annual increments for sixteen levels, currently taking the SAR Paramedic Winch Crew to c. £53,200. Salaries are based upon working an average of 8 SAR shifts per month and working up to the Civil Aviation (Working Time) Regulations duty hour limitation (currently 2,000 duty hours). In addition Bristow offers a competitive benefits package including BUPA membership, up to 9% matched pension contributions (dependent upon length of service) including death in service benefit, Share Incentive Programme and Cycle to Work Scheme.

http://prod-app-01.bristowgroup.com/...efing_pack.pdf

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 09:00
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Wow. Not to put anyone off who really wants the job but they literally have just created from nothing a 5 year pay scale below year 1 which until now was the entry point including previous civilian paramedic joiners ex HEMS or simply road ambulance, whichever. So now you don’t get paid as a regular crewmember for 5 years and 9 months, even though after training moves to the operational aircraft you are filling a line on the roster of a full crewmember as if not line checked within a year or maybe as little as 6 months then you’ll probably not be considered suitable and be got rid of. Such a con it’s unreal. Where are the ever wonderful BALPA on this? Given their never ending support for the oil and gas mainstream mafia in our industry yet our dedicated SAR brethren are left to the side as always.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 11:29
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How many of the current SAR Paramedic winchmen are actually on £53,200?
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 15:45
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How many of the current SAR Paramedic winchmen are actually on £53,200?
Ask how many of them would go back to the military. Good luck to those who apply. An amazing job 👍
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 16:54
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I,m quite surprised by the salary package. Even after 5 years, successful cadetship, staff salaries will still be falling short of NHS paramedics. I can see that the job role will be attractive to many, but unlikely to lure experienced HEMS or HART paramedics who arguably have more of a similar skill set, having also many years of paramedic experience.
The starting salary is only likely to attract more junior paramedics on Band 5 salaries with limited experience. Still an awesome job though.
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