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Old 23rd Sep 2018, 23:24
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Thank Goodness! Whilst I have had serious concerns about Ollie's commitment towards Police Air support, my personal contact over the years have made me believe that in the end he would come good. Perhaps he might yet prove that that belief had some substance! Ollie, prove that confidence was well worthy!

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Old 27th Sep 2018, 20:07
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I see NPAS are looking for pilots. They are going to need about 10 over the next year due to age 60 retirements.
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Originally Posted by MightyGem
I see NPAS are looking for pilots. They are going to need about 10 over the next year due to age 60 retirements.
last I heard it was a few more than that, also advertising for 2 at Hawarden.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 19:10
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Scotty just took early retirement
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Yes, I know. Very sensible.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 20:35
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In the wake of the Simon Byrne [Chief Constable of Cheshire] bullying allegations this spun onto my desk today.

It is mostly news to me .... so no comment but I am sure there may be some sharp intakes of breath.

https://neilwilby.com/2018/09/27/pol...off-the-radar/
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NPAS is the first truly National Police Collaboration created under a Lead Force model and is widely regarded as a major accomplishment.
© Neil Wilby 2015-2018. Unauthorised use, or reproduction, of the material contained in this article, without permission from the author, is strictly prohibited. Extracts from, and links to, the article (or blog) may be used, provided that credit is given to Neil Wilby, with appropriate and specific direction to the original content.

In keeping with that footer on the article linked to, I have included it to be sure that you all know who provided the words...is widely regarded as a major accomplishment
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 22:18
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Well, well.

What goes round comes round Tyron! No smoke without fire and after all these years, your past has caught up with you.....it seems.
A lot of people will be glad he's gone. One person on here in particular (if he still reads Pprune).
The big question now is - can Ollie turn this slow motion car crash around before it passes the point of no return?
At least an aviator is now in charge of an airline business!!
Good luck OD.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 23:09
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Futures

WYP will need to advertise the job but I suspect it will be seen as a poisoned chalice after what happened to the two previous incumbents.

that gives OD time.

there is an option lurking out there that they can directly employ a person from industry and parachute them in to the role in the rank of Superintendent. That person could be someone well versed in police aviation - there are one or two about I can instantly think of that are currently spare but the primary need is that they get on with OD and that means that the friendship of both parties needs not to have been damaged by recent events. A lot of people got trampled and it depends on who did the trampling.

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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 13:08
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Well, well.

What goes round comes round Tyron! No smoke without fire and after all these years, your past has caught up with you.....it seems.
A lot of people will be glad he's gone. One person on here in particular (if he still reads Pprune).
The big question now is - can Ollie turn this slow motion car crash around before it passes the point of no return?
At least an aviator is now in charge of an airline business!!
Good luck OD.
From one of the Ex Wattisham drivers I concur.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 20:32
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"NPAS is the 1st Truly National Police Collaboration, created under lead force model, and is widely regarded as a major accomplishment."

What a total load of Horlicks that statement is! The 27 odd forces that comprised UK Police Aviation, prior to NPAS were a far more efficient delivery machine to the bobby on the beat than NPAS could ever hope to be. The model for UK Police air units was well understood and practised Nationally, subject to Home Office inspections, and staffed by enthusiastic and dedicated UEO's and unit members. Whilst it must be admitted there were some gaps in coverage, generally speaking coverage was good and response times effective. The co-operation between units was also good and UEO's were in almost daily contact with each other, in order to provide best possible coverage.

Then came along NPAS. We hoped that it would increase efficiency but instead it did just the opposite. The bases and the fleet were cut to the bone and the life blood of enthusiasm strangled. Instead of the highly motivated UEO's managers were no longer driven by a desire to catch criminals, but more about their own career tick in the boxes.

UK Police Aviation, once one of the best in the world became a joke, - a very sad joke. It wasn't the guys that made up the crews, - it was the top level management! I true modern disaster an example of how to turn something that worked well into something that didn't!

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Old 4th Oct 2018, 23:11
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He's gone now Tigerfish. The man who was the catalyst for change (allegedly by bullying) has been unceremoniously discharged of his duty and hopefully along with his collaborator the CC.
The bad news is that he got promotion out of desecrating a once proud 'airforce'.
It will be interesting to learn what conclusion the Cambridge Constabulary come to after they complete their review as a consequence of the Home Office audit last year on NPAS (which I believe was the start of Tyron's downfall). Now that he can no longer extend his bullying tenticles (nearly said testicles!) across the country, will they feel safe to now re-write the last paragraph in light of the latest changes?
More importantly and in light of government cut backs - will NPAS survive to fight another day or will this be the final nail in the coffin?
Is Ollie's job description, as INTERIM COO, to dismantle what's left of the machinery and cast Police Air Support into the past?
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And they're off:
Boss of NPAS in alleged bullying recriminations
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 11:20
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I think it is unfair to blame the whole thing on Tyrone.

True he was the tool by which much had been slashed and damaged but he was not the architect of the mess.

The plan upon which his [alleged] bullying may have been based was not of his doing. That must go way back to 2012 when perhaps he was nowt but a lad. There is going to be a smokescreen laid over this and I guess he will be blamed for all and sundry when the real allegtion at his door is about good old fashioned overbearing conduct.

The plan that he wilfully imposed was that of ACPO and some Mandarins at the Home Office. If we try very hard we can recall some of the names but they were not really important or memorable people [despite their Knighthoods and QPM's dished out to them] and they were so sure of themselves after some other wide ranging critisims they now hide their activities under another title.....NPCC. Who on earth, in a supposedly sane moment chose to accept West Yorkshire as the centre of the rotary earth?

Good job The News of the World went away or we would be reading ten pages on this tomorrow! Still it was a page 22 story today so not that bad really (I bought the (Sun) paper specially to Your Honour - not my usual cup of char).
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I don't think you're close enough to the hub to realise/recognise that this person was the engine of NPAS.
He allegedly bullied those below him and he allegedly gave the impression all was well to those above him. In particular he appeared to have had an uncanny knack of getting his CC onside everytime. He was a one man band and anyone who stood in his way - appears to have been removed. Many of those complaints may testify to this and all of the financial payouts were as a direct result of resistance to his plans and them being expelled.
It was only when the HMIC audit got its teeth into this mess, did the problems surface.
Be under no illusion - he was given a brief by the HO to cut and slash costs. This became his personal agenda and on a mercenary basis. With a met background - operating in West yorks must have been the perfect setting for his staff and peers to perceive him as a pariah.
Can NPAS recover..................................
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 21:17
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New to this and wondered why Scotland only has one police helicopter base with one helicopter in Glasgow when there are 15 helicopter bases with a lot more police helicopters in England?

Scotland has large cities such as Edingburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen to look after and we only have one helicopter?

Is there more crime down south, or did the English and Wales police chiefs decide they all wanted a police helicopter at the time?

The Scottish police helicopter has its own twitter page which shows how its done
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TC, Total agreement there. NPAS was doomed from day 1 by a home Office that quite frankly didn't understand the concept of Air support. They took the accountant's viewpoint that only looked at the bottom line, - how much it was costing! They chose to ignore its effectiveness in controlling and reducing crime, - the actual cost of which was a very serious drain on our national resources.

Then came the biggest Foul up in History, they chose to put in charge their own puppets to manage NPAS! Anyone who knew anything about what had made UK Police Air Support the success it had been was eliminated, - only the puppets that were happy to bow down to the new mantra of saving money at all costs, were allowed to stay. So that in a very short time the whole of the enthusiasm and understanding that had created effective Police Air Support in the UK, had been strangled. What was left was a mere compliant but ineffective rump of what had been there before. UK Police Aviation as it was. Was dead!

Until someone has the sheer balls to stand up and shout that the Emperor is naked, we simply cannot make any headway! I'm 73 now and over the hill, but for God's sake surely I'm not the only one willing to cry foul on this bloody disaster!

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Old 7th Oct 2018, 06:44
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TF - The problem is that if you're going to point out that the Emperor is naked, you have to be a good tailor and all of the good tailors have, as far as I can tell, already left the organisation.
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Nessie1, Its a historical thing really. When UK Police Aviation was at the height of its development in the first 10 years of this millennium, there were something like 27 units in England and Wales and Northern Ireland, based on groups of Forces that had got together to provide mutual air support in their area. That system had well over 30 Helicopters in service and provided adequate coverage across the UK. The forces co-operated well with each other and tend to mutually support each other during maintenance down time etc. The one exception was Scotland were only one Force (Strathclyde) established air support. The remaining Scottish forces were either too small or not convinced that they had a use for air support. So it was when the Scottish Forces all combined into one, they only established with one Helicopter and it has remained so ever since. NPAS was never intended to increase Air Support, but was rather an asset shedding organisation and as such was never going to increase coverage. It could have been so much better, the idea of a National Police Air Wing was great but the way it was put together fatally flawed. The ONLY intention being to cut back on service provision and costs.

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Whether OD can turn this around may be signified by the openness of the "new" situation.

For too long information and disinformation has been strictly regulated - this is the stuff that has been the fuel of complaint and argument and yet the minutes of meetings have been held back and severely redacted [admittedly by the WYPCC not NPAS] so that sensible critique has been muted. The Annual Reports under recent management have been a joke, the first under Whitehouse gave out a broad brush of information and then it headed downhill as statistics were buried. The latest suggestion is that the operation was only born when Humberside finally joined the organisation so there is no need to issue statistics.

Whether the organisation comes out of its Cold War on information and pushes out the missing minutes and statistics will at least be an indicator of faith in the future. They may also prove that the suppression was largely the fault of top management not simply a suitable place to place the blame.

With so many intelligent people kept so long in this suppressed state the question remains whether anyone remembers how to do the job properly. All the people who questioned authority were progressively culled and some were never taken on-board simply because it was known they would never 'behave'. That's right isn't it Tigerfish?

Is it safe?
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