R22 Robbie bites the dust - Oz
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I went to fly with a private owner of a 44 once. At one point I asked if he had a ladder so I could check the rotor head, to which he replied, "oh I never go up there, just glancing at it from down here is enough".
There are videos on youtube of 44 pilots flying into IMC, some just glancing through, some going all the way and crashing! There's a new one with the 44 pilot clipping his tail and crashing,...and so on! Pilot error is not a false claim by Robinson!
Sure Robby's have a bloody beginning, and maybe they're the only make of helicopter that has had people die during the early stages, I don't know? Thing is, they fixed all those early problems with SFAR 73 and the Safety Notices in the POH.
Now I could have an accident the next time I go up, but after fifteen years and around thirty-five different R22's of varying age and condition, I'd have a hard time blaming the design!
There are videos on youtube of 44 pilots flying into IMC, some just glancing through, some going all the way and crashing! There's a new one with the 44 pilot clipping his tail and crashing,...and so on! Pilot error is not a false claim by Robinson!
Sure Robby's have a bloody beginning, and maybe they're the only make of helicopter that has had people die during the early stages, I don't know? Thing is, they fixed all those early problems with SFAR 73 and the Safety Notices in the POH.
Now I could have an accident the next time I go up, but after fifteen years and around thirty-five different R22's of varying age and condition, I'd have a hard time blaming the design!
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My fault I guess. I don't usually read Robinson threads because I've never flown one. I'm sure you have 40.7 hours in one, or two, or three maybe? The way you keep wasting them it soon adds up.
No. Not at all.
I still remember the days when Pprune was a very different place. The days when Nick Lappos would hold daily court and everybody was welcome. Anybody who had any kind of interest in helicopters whether, wannabe, pro or weekend flyer was made to feel at home. I still come here to learn, but I yearn for the days when friendly was the norm. Back then I was the weekend guy and now after thousands of medium twin IFR hours, I still remember Nick's warm welcome and I extend that courtesy to all - but take a look up, and that guy was being a a bit of a dick and earned my response. Safe flight to all !!
I still remember the days when Pprune was a very different place. The days when Nick Lappos would hold daily court and everybody was welcome. Anybody who had any kind of interest in helicopters whether, wannabe, pro or weekend flyer was made to feel at home. I still come here to learn, but I yearn for the days when friendly was the norm. Back then I was the weekend guy and now after thousands of medium twin IFR hours, I still remember Nick's warm welcome and I extend that courtesy to all - but take a look up, and that guy was being a a bit of a dick and earned my response. Safe flight to all !!
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Is it just me or is this rather predictable "well done for getting rid of another one" stuff starting to wear a bit thin?
It was perhaps funny the first once or twice but really...? If that's all you've got to contribute about helicopter accidents then I am reminded of the phrase "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and prove it".
Robbo's have their weaknesses, and I've flown one unlike a lot of the armchair experts on here. I'd not choose to fly one again however this school playground knee-jerk nonsense is really starting to have a detrimental effect on any thread that involves a Robbo, overshadowing and discouraging real discussion. It's like the sad old git in the corner of the bar who keeps telling the same story over and over again because he's got nothing else to talk about.
It was perhaps funny the first once or twice but really...? If that's all you've got to contribute about helicopter accidents then I am reminded of the phrase "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and prove it".
Robbo's have their weaknesses, and I've flown one unlike a lot of the armchair experts on here. I'd not choose to fly one again however this school playground knee-jerk nonsense is really starting to have a detrimental effect on any thread that involves a Robbo, overshadowing and discouraging real discussion. It's like the sad old git in the corner of the bar who keeps telling the same story over and over again because he's got nothing else to talk about.
CPL(H) actually, turbine, much the same qualification as you, probably.
me? Just because I pointed out that you had re-posted the original incident that the thread was created for, clearly without bothering to read it, in your rush to add to the jingoistic Robinson-bashing? That doesn't justify your mocking insults and childish, derogatory name-calling.
Don't we all. When are you going to start?
As a professional pilot who has been contributing to these pages for quite a few years longer than you have, I don't need any 'welcome' from you, especially not the courtesy of the 'warm' welcome you claim to extend.
me? Just because I pointed out that you had re-posted the original incident that the thread was created for, clearly without bothering to read it, in your rush to add to the jingoistic Robinson-bashing? That doesn't justify your mocking insults and childish, derogatory name-calling.
Don't we all. When are you going to start?
As a professional pilot who has been contributing to these pages for quite a few years longer than you have, I don't need any 'welcome' from you, especially not the courtesy of the 'warm' welcome you claim to extend.
Gosh! It looks identical to the one at the very start of this thread. An unobservant pilot's mistake being posted multiple times by unobservant posters.
On that basis, it will probably be logged twice as well, to skew the accident statistics against this make of helicopter too.....
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=eQbf_1525655974
Wrong. It was news days ago when this thread was started to report this very incident.
On that basis, it will probably be logged twice as well, to skew the accident statistics against this make of helicopter too.....
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=eQbf_1525655974
Wrong. It was news days ago when this thread was started to report this very incident.
Getting upset and handbags at dawn is never going to end well with that sort of basic error.
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For what its worth that 44 crash had already been posted,...just not in this thread.
R44 down in Brasil
R44 down in Brasil
