Do you let people have a go?
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Do you let people have a go?
When flying in dual command aircraft are you breaking the law if you give control to passenger and you are not FI?
Assume that the person would have been briefed on the controls as well as positive exchange of controls.
I know some people do it but I am not sure if this is correct on not i.e. I bought a flight helicopter experience some time ago and did have the control even tried to hover. The person taking me out was not FI.
Assume that the person would have been briefed on the controls as well as positive exchange of controls.
I know some people do it but I am not sure if this is correct on not i.e. I bought a flight helicopter experience some time ago and did have the control even tried to hover. The person taking me out was not FI.
Dropping the controle on people without having briefed them on the opportunity on the ground where their brains still works is a very bad idea. Fixed wing or rotor craft.
Ask me how I know.
On second thoughts don’t....lol
Ask me how I know.
On second thoughts don’t....lol
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Your comment above make me worried that it is not right to do so....
I am mostly interested in rules for Europe (sorry forgot to mention this at start of thread)
AOC ops requires commercial pilots to fly - noone else.
GA flying may not have a rule specifically stating children cannot fly, but if they are NOT pilots, you'd have your work cut out convincing a law court you were in control and the insurance company would have a field day.
Same with cars I guess.
Only a dick would allow a child to take control.
(Big difference between taking control and following daddy thru on the controls).
GA flying may not have a rule specifically stating children cannot fly, but if they are NOT pilots, you'd have your work cut out convincing a law court you were in control and the insurance company would have a field day.
Same with cars I guess.
Only a dick would allow a child to take control.
(Big difference between taking control and following daddy thru on the controls).
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Some companies have an STC for CARs 703 (commercial passenger carrying) from the left seat. On any medium I have flown you cannot remove the right seat controls.
Do you let people have a go?
Yes, I did once let a couple have a go, but they were in the back seat, celebrating their engagement, and asked me not to look around..... We weren't at 5,280' unfortunately, but that was a minor detail.
Yes, I did once let a couple have a go, but they were in the back seat, celebrating their engagement, and asked me not to look around..... We weren't at 5,280' unfortunately, but that was a minor detail.
It’s all good fun till somebody gets hurt.
If you’re an aspiring career pilot be extra cautious even if it is legal.
Any blemish on your record won’t do your career any good.
If you’re an aspiring career pilot be extra cautious even if it is legal.
Any blemish on your record won’t do your career any good.
😂😂😂 added some hi-lo g maneuvers to make "it" extra special??!
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I am not sure if it was tranport flight or not we were the only two people on board.
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In Europe....
EASA EU1178/2011 FCL.900
"(a) General. A person shall only carry out:
1) flight Instruction in aircraft when he/she holds:
i) a pilot licence issued or accepted in accordance with this Regulation;
ii) an instructor certificate appropriate to the instruction given, issued in accordance with this subpart."
Not only should you be properly qualified, you should also be operating under a suitable flying school approval E.g. an ATO and at a suitable training aerodrome.
If you have an accident, the insurers will simply laugh at you and heaven help you if someone else is killed - you'll go to prison.
If you have not trained to be an instructor, you don't know what you don't know! Ask any newly qualified instructor what they have learned in their first six months and they will invariably tell you about someone doing something they had not expected.
As Ascend says it's not a good idea. I know of at least two UK accidents where private owners have let someone have a go and crashed of a result. It's this sort of irresponsibility that puts our insurance premiums up. Best don't do it!
EASA EU1178/2011 FCL.900
"(a) General. A person shall only carry out:
1) flight Instruction in aircraft when he/she holds:
i) a pilot licence issued or accepted in accordance with this Regulation;
ii) an instructor certificate appropriate to the instruction given, issued in accordance with this subpart."
Not only should you be properly qualified, you should also be operating under a suitable flying school approval E.g. an ATO and at a suitable training aerodrome.
If you have an accident, the insurers will simply laugh at you and heaven help you if someone else is killed - you'll go to prison.
If you have not trained to be an instructor, you don't know what you don't know! Ask any newly qualified instructor what they have learned in their first six months and they will invariably tell you about someone doing something they had not expected.
As Ascend says it's not a good idea. I know of at least two UK accidents where private owners have let someone have a go and crashed of a result. It's this sort of irresponsibility that puts our insurance premiums up. Best don't do it!
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There is a difference between giving instruction and "letting someone have a go"...
In Europe....
EASA EU1178/2011 FCL.900
"(a) General. A person shall only carry out:
1) flight Instruction in aircraft when he/she holds:
i) a pilot licence issued or accepted in accordance with this Regulation;
ii) an instructor certificate appropriate to the instruction given, issued in accordance with this subpart."
Not only should you be properly qualified, you should also be operating under a suitable flying school approval E.g. an ATO and at a suitable training aerodrome.
If you have an accident, the insurers will simply laugh at you and heaven help you if someone else is killed - you'll go to prison.
If you have not trained to be an instructor, you don't know what you don't know! Ask any newly qualified instructor what they have learned in their first six months and they will invariably tell you about someone doing something they had not expected.
EASA EU1178/2011 FCL.900
"(a) General. A person shall only carry out:
1) flight Instruction in aircraft when he/she holds:
i) a pilot licence issued or accepted in accordance with this Regulation;
ii) an instructor certificate appropriate to the instruction given, issued in accordance with this subpart."
Not only should you be properly qualified, you should also be operating under a suitable flying school approval E.g. an ATO and at a suitable training aerodrome.
If you have an accident, the insurers will simply laugh at you and heaven help you if someone else is killed - you'll go to prison.
If you have not trained to be an instructor, you don't know what you don't know! Ask any newly qualified instructor what they have learned in their first six months and they will invariably tell you about someone doing something they had not expected.
