Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Rotorheads
Reload this Page >

Bristows Q1 2018 result

Wikiposts
Search
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

Bristows Q1 2018 result

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 8th Aug 2017, 10:46
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Under a tree in the NT
Posts: 148
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Bristows Q1 2018 result

A lazy $50M loss even after selling a second hand AWSAR S92 for $40M!

http://ir.bristowgroup.com/mobile.view?c=91226&v=203&d=1&id=2291831
NumptyAussie is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 11:05
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: southern half
Age: 37
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wow, amazing reading. Africa is the only bright light, but on a small revenue base. Everything else is haemorrhaging cash.
Unregistered_ is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 11:25
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 514
Received 21 Likes on 14 Posts
2018? mystic meg working for bristow? or is Q1 2018 doors closed?
helicrazi is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 11:31
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Under a tree in the NT
Posts: 148
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Originally Posted by helicrazi
2018? mystic meg working for bristow? or is Q1 2018 doors closed?

I know Wikipedia is almost as reliable as the famed Meg (old time Sun reader here) but fiscally, years are usually defined as the year they end..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year

Last edited by NumptyAussie; 8th Aug 2017 at 12:04.
NumptyAussie is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 11:44
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 514
Received 21 Likes on 14 Posts
Learn something new every day! I don't think any operators are in a good position, it's all just a matter of time...
helicrazi is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 11:57
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Wanaka, NZ
Posts: 2,569
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by NumptyAussie
A lazy $50M loss even after selling a second hand AWSAR S92 for $40M!
$40M for a used SAR S92? I'm stunned at that sale price.
gulliBell is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 12:15
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Moo moo land
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Not your bog standard self loading freight machine.
Factor in the winches x2 ,flir turret ,trakka beam and euronav 7 mission console mucho dinereo
Also virtually brand new bought by captain america and his cronies for a contract they didn't win.
At least they didn't blame Brexit in this report.
lowfat is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 13:28
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Arlington, Tx. US
Posts: 696
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 7 Posts
Guili

You need to consider that Canadian military S-92's are $200m apiece.
The Sultan is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 15:12
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: GMT
Age: 53
Posts: 2,067
Received 182 Likes on 68 Posts
Deeply concerning that they are burning so much cash so quickly, and yet the traditional methods of raising liquidity must be closing off. Captain America must have a Plan B........
minigundiplomat is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 20:48
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Netherlands
Age: 54
Posts: 3,185
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by lowfat
At least they didn't blame Brexit in this report.
But they do mention:

....and an unfavorable impact from changes in foreign currency exchange rates compared to the June 2016 quarter of $18.8 million, which related mostly to the depreciation in the British pound sterling. .....

Which is in principle also due to Brexit.

Cheers SLB
Self loading bear is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 21:44
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The business model in the helicopter industry simply doesn't work these days.
satsuma is offline  
Old 8th Aug 2017, 22:40
  #12 (permalink)  

Nigerian In Law
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: The stool at the end of the bar
Posts: 1,147
Received 38 Likes on 26 Posts
Became very top heavy after the take over. So many "senior managers" and meetings for meetings sake. Their contractual corporate charges must be huge; no wonder they can't compete anymore. Shame, they used to be a great company.

NEO
Nigerian Expat Outlaw is offline  
Old 9th Aug 2017, 01:12
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Wanaka, NZ
Posts: 2,569
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Off on a bit of a tangent here, but there is some merit in the thought of oil companies owning their own helicopters and helicopter maintenance capability, and running the whole show privately. Like the Esso model. It has to be cheaper than paying contractors to do the job, with all those contractor overheads of top heavy senior managers and meetings for meetings sake, and maintaining the higher standard of "for hire" regulatory compliance, and shareholders expecting dividends from profits etc etc. Safety statistics are also likely in favour of this approach.
gulliBell is offline  
Old 9th Aug 2017, 21:49
  #14 (permalink)  

Nigerian In Law
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: The stool at the end of the bar
Posts: 1,147
Received 38 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by Bruce No1
Trinidad is probably by far the most profitable contract that Bristow have and the revenue from there is anything but small.
So a Global company will survive because Trinidad will hold them up ? Somehow I doubt it.

NEO
Nigerian Expat Outlaw is offline  
Old 9th Aug 2017, 22:36
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: southern half
Age: 37
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bruce No1
Not quite everything.
The operation in Trinidad has 6 AW139's and 1 S92 on contract and that base is far from "haemorrhaging cash".
In fact, excluding the SAR contract, Trinidad is probably by far the most profitable contract that Bristow have and the revenue from there is anything but small.
What report are you looking at, or am I reading it wrong?

"...a decrease in revenue in Trinidad and a decrease in revenue in Brazil"
$1.2M loss in the Americas. Revenue down 236%.

Remembering of course, this is for 3 months, not a year.
Unregistered_ is offline  
Old 9th Aug 2017, 22:50
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: southern half
Age: 37
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fair enough. I don't have that level of local knowledge, just commenting on whats presented.
Unregistered_ is offline  
Old 9th Aug 2017, 22:54
  #17 (permalink)  

Nigerian In Law
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: The stool at the end of the bar
Posts: 1,147
Received 38 Likes on 26 Posts
Me too.

NEO
Nigerian Expat Outlaw is offline  
Old 10th Aug 2017, 18:53
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Moo moo land
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I believe we have a new target Zero..... Profit...
lowfat is offline  
Old 10th Aug 2017, 21:20
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 202
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Financially heading towards the drain and still introducing unbelievable levels of corporate crap that are simply not required. All while paying eye watering severance payments to directors and yearly retentions to those they want to keep.

LZ
Hot_LZ is online now  
Old 10th Aug 2017, 21:46
  #20 (permalink)  

Nigerian In Law
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: The stool at the end of the bar
Posts: 1,147
Received 38 Likes on 26 Posts
Such a shame; after 25 years with Bristow (during which I was treated badly by one opinionated Manager then extremely well by another in my time of need; there is another thread on here about that), it is truly sad to watch this decline after the sell outs and multiple rapes/asset strippings, all because the people in Houston can't adjust and only seem to want to preserve their own positions.

Classic short sighted self interest.

NEO
Nigerian Expat Outlaw is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.