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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:54
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None I would think, certainly of the larger or more complex contracts - the proof is in the on time delivery; as to the maturity and true capability of the organisation.
I disagree on your viewpoint.

HNZ has a global reach now with crew change contracts in Australia partnered with PHI and the now famous SAR contract. They have contracts in Asia and until recently in Halifax also teamed with PHI. Remember, HNZ is now a brand as well as just the old HNZ.

Yes, the SAR contract in Australia has been delayed by some unforeseen circumstances but to dismiss HNZ as incapable is foolhardy. Like it or not, HNZ is providing a service that its customers seem to like at a price the customers seem to like. Oil is now set at around $50, noncompetitive operators who misjudge their competition will be the losers.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 13:11
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That global reach doesn’t seem to help!
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 14:33
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Numpty Aussie - not bitter, just a SAR professional who is tired of companies/outfits claiming, under false pretenses, to have what for many of us were hard-won experiences, skills and abilities.

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Like it or not, HNZ is providing a service that its customers seem to like at a price the customers seem to like
that's exactly the point - they are NOT providing the service that their customers asked for.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 18:16
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Your comment John re the ridiculous situation whereby the state police having primacy for SAR response
Certainly was the case in my part of Oz, they would call in the necessary assets needed to effect rescue, and exercised control. They had a unit dedicated to the SAR management role. Could have changed since my day.

https://www.amsa.gov.au/search-and-r...-in-australia/
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Old 3rd Oct 2017, 11:30
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Originally Posted by 332tiger View Post
Inpex aviation managers have been protecting HNZ/PHI since the start, even not allowing SHELL auditors to audit HNZ/PHI when they were in Broome auditing CHC and BRS earlier in the year.
332tiger, that statement is manifestly untrue. I'd be very careful saying such things, especially given the Announcement at the head of every forum: Notice regarding post responsibility and anonymity
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Old 3rd Oct 2017, 11:43
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HNZ have partnered with a Japanese company (even went to trouble of getting "INPEX" embroidered on passenger seats and painted on the airframes)
332 Tiggy

I fly these aircraft every day and do the preflight pilot inspection. Theres no INPEX logo painted on them at all and no logo sewn into the seats.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 11:08
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Squeaks and Brother...

I’ve read the disclaimer at the top of the page and it says “pprune”, part of which I believe means rumour.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 12:03
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I’ve read the disclaimer at the top of the page and it says “pprune”, part of which I believe means rumour.
Even if there is a rumour of logos I can give you fact, no logos on seats no logos painted on the aircraft.
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 05:48
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Originally Posted by Brother View Post
Even if there is a rumour of logos I can give you fact, no logos on seats no logos painted on the aircraft.
Brother, maybe you could share some facts on the 3 x S92s currently parked off shore due a gearbox maintenance overrun? Unless you're stuck off shore?
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 09:56
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Hi Wrecker

nothing to do with overrun mate, you should stop listening the voices in your head. while chucking stones, you might want to check your aircraft, you may not know what you dont know

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Old 13th Oct 2017, 11:05
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The brave new business model seems to relay on one “dinosaur company”* covering SAR, and another doing rig flights for them, while the “leaders” in the race to the bottom remind the client how cheap they are.

Or are these facts voices in my head?

* previously referred to as capable, professional, complient, etc
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 12:10
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The issue with the aircraft stuck offshore is due to a Sikorsky manufacturing non-conformance on the pump splines. Sikorsky doesn't seem to think it's a major issue, but certain people in CASA are making a big show of it...
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Old 14th Oct 2017, 12:53
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due to a Sikorsky manufacturing non-conformance on the pump splines.
Correct rrekn and all aircraft are now back in Broome following the approval of Sikorsky and CASA.

I hope BRS and CHC have checked their 92s.
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Old 15th Oct 2017, 04:09
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Correct rrekn and all aircraft are now back in Broome following the approval of Sikorsky and CASA.

I hope BRS and CHC have checked their 92s.
Why did the aircraft have to wait until there was approval from Sikorsky and CASA to get back to Broome? As I understand it (admittedly from this thread) the aircraft were grounded by their own company. Given the chamfer characteristic is widely understood not to be a safety-of-flight issue, what does this have to do with BRS and CHC?
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Old 15th Oct 2017, 08:03
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Originally Posted by Hattori Hanzo View Post
Why did the aircraft have to wait until there was approval from Sikorsky and CASA to get back to Broome? As I understand it (admittedly from this thread) the aircraft were grounded by their own company. Given the chamfer characteristic is widely understood not to be a safety-of-flight issue, what does this have to do with BRS and CHC?
I’m not sure.
Maybe trying to deflect the embarrassment caused by BRS and CHC doing the flights HNZ were contracted (oh so cheaply) to do?

The brave new world “budget” model may not work so well when the premium providers are forced from the market by the race to the bottom, and no longer able to step in to get the job done.

Getting the job actually done, doesn’t seem to be a priority anymore. Not something worth paying extra for.

Along with complying with the country’s Aviation regulations, it’s become second to “cheap”.

It’s amazing that winching without correct approval, or whatever has caused the extensive SAR contract delay, wasn’t stopped by “Bow ties”, “step back 5” or the wearing of hi vis vests!
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Old 15th Oct 2017, 10:40
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It will inevitably come back and bite someone in the a*se sooner or later, then there will be a witch-hunt to find a scapegoat.

Let's just hope it doesn't come at the cost of a life or lives that would have been saved if a competent operator had the contract.
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Old 15th Oct 2017, 11:55
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Getting the job actually done, doesn’t seem to be a priority anymore. Not something worth paying extra for.
I wasnt going to comment but you blokes are making me laugh so much i cant get to sleep for my early shift. PHI and HNZ, both in business 60 years incapable of providing sar and BRS the only ones who know what they are doing? and pay extra to get the job done? maybe that's why BRS is losing all its work.

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this a basically a repeat of your last post, are you ok or do you need to the clock test?
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Old 15th Oct 2017, 12:17
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Crab

this a basically a repeat of your last post, are you ok or do you need to the clock test?
because some of us think it is actually quite important and the company you say is competent, still ISN'T providing the contracted service.

I hope you are still laughing when someone ditches and needs SAR cover at night.
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Old 15th Oct 2017, 13:39
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because some of us think it is actually quite important and the company you say is competent, still ISN'T providing the contracted service.
What is the contracted service Crab?
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Old 15th Oct 2017, 20:29
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As I understand it the contract is to provide AWSAR.
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