Squirrel helicopter crash in Bergen, Norway May 2017
Such a shame. What could be a really interesting learning experience for many of us has become a mud slinging match for so many big egos!
Not going to bother to read anymore on here, it's become vindictive.
Very sad this is the way Ppruner's behave.
Not going to bother to read anymore on here, it's become vindictive.
Very sad this is the way Ppruner's behave.
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I think what people are objecting to here, is the rather obvious attempt to get a particular narrative out there by Q, then parroted and embellished by his rather fawning supporters on this forum.
All sorts of interpretations can be put on the evidence presented in these videos, and even the least favourable ones I can think of are hardly damaging to Q. His quick thinking post crash doesn't seem to be in debate so credit to him for that.
Q is who he is, and he works quite hard at being that way. Some people love him, some people hate him. But the obvious attempt to 'manage the news' when IMHO it's actually not really required in this case does grate a little.
All sorts of interpretations can be put on the evidence presented in these videos, and even the least favourable ones I can think of are hardly damaging to Q. His quick thinking post crash doesn't seem to be in debate so credit to him for that.
Q is who he is, and he works quite hard at being that way. Some people love him, some people hate him. But the obvious attempt to 'manage the news' when IMHO it's actually not really required in this case does grate a little.
Punto,
I think you hit the nail on the head there.
Smith is not known to half if not two thirds of the industry. It's only the Robinson and light market that has heard of him so when the news speaks of this highly regarded world famous heli pilot most rotary pilots are saying 'who'.
There are hundreds of extremely well accomplished pilots out there (just in the U.K) that have bundles of experience across all sorts of theatres far more dangerous and taxing than what Smith has done but we don't know of many as they choose to not shout about it and take it all in their stride.
I think you hit the nail on the head there.
Smith is not known to half if not two thirds of the industry. It's only the Robinson and light market that has heard of him so when the news speaks of this highly regarded world famous heli pilot most rotary pilots are saying 'who'.
There are hundreds of extremely well accomplished pilots out there (just in the U.K) that have bundles of experience across all sorts of theatres far more dangerous and taxing than what Smith has done but we don't know of many as they choose to not shout about it and take it all in their stride.
Punto and jeepys
You guys and your 👏👏 !!!
I have no real connection with Q and accept he is a marmite character and very different to a lot of you on here who just flew, or fly , as a job. It's just funny that it's always the same old guard who come out from under their rocks to criticise and pour their vitriol on another pilot ... One of the draw backs of being anonymous I guess ,but we all imagine a bitter old ex pilot who hasn't flown for years who is behind the monicker!!
Ps ... Before you say anything I may be pretty old ... But I am still flying most days and I'm definitely not jealous or bitter !!
I have no real connection with Q and accept he is a marmite character and very different to a lot of you on here who just flew, or fly , as a job. It's just funny that it's always the same old guard who come out from under their rocks to criticise and pour their vitriol on another pilot ... One of the draw backs of being anonymous I guess ,but we all imagine a bitter old ex pilot who hasn't flown for years who is behind the monicker!!
Ps ... Before you say anything I may be pretty old ... But I am still flying most days and I'm definitely not jealous or bitter !!
Oh dear, you will upset his fan club with that one
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Mmmm... Well if he was trying to land a commercial helicopter on a private or commercial yachts uncertified heli deck then no wonder he ran away...! We are going through some changes in yachting at the moment and are trying to get rid of these so called "Touch & Go" helipads. They are very rarely set up with the correct rotor clearances, and fire fighting kit, or are actually strong enough to take the crash of a large helicopter. The MCAGA have issued new instructions for the operations of helos on yachts under the LY3 code and this sets out how we want the operations and construction of these pads to be in the future. We still cannot though legislate against Private yachts with Privately registered helicopters doing what they want...! The only real people that can do that are the insurance companies who can stop them by insisting they comply with the new regulations. Glad they all survived though.
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Norwegian law breaking press conference,,,??
Hedski
In the unlikely event I should decide to have a press conference in the Kingdom of Norway,what law would I break?
General observation!
I have no idea who this chap is , but I admire his very quick switch to rescue diver.
Not shure if I could do the same thing. Aim never to find out.
As fare as the time and place, perfect.
Some basic good instinct and pure luck. Quit a performance, good to see a happy ending after last years event.
A good landing is now defined as : PIC attends the press conference!
A great landing is now defined as : No press conference, and aircraft can be used again.
Happy Landings
In the unlikely event I should decide to have a press conference in the Kingdom of Norway,what law would I break?
General observation!
I have no idea who this chap is , but I admire his very quick switch to rescue diver.
Not shure if I could do the same thing. Aim never to find out.
As fare as the time and place, perfect.
Some basic good instinct and pure luck. Quit a performance, good to see a happy ending after last years event.
A good landing is now defined as : PIC attends the press conference!
A great landing is now defined as : No press conference, and aircraft can be used again.
Happy Landings
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I'd like to think in many threads that occupy PPrune, we banter and we learn. Other people make mistakes, so we don't we don't have to, is often quoted.
However, all I've learned from this is, don't be Q.
Yet, he was in the enviable position of landing a squirrel aboard a yacht worth more than an African nation. Like most accidents, they happen close to home or approach, be it approaching a ship, oil rig, or even Battersea
If it wasn't foggy, or if it wasn't shi$ty or if that obstacle was in the in the FMS and if the fuel filter cover stayed on etc, this thread like others wouldn't have started.
We have an accident, but 3 survivors. What SOPs will be drawn from this? Only time will time. It is the F1 circus in Monaco this weekend, so I imagine there will be more yachts and helicopters in action and more deckhands and captains checking their liability for any possible mishaps. Let's hope not.
Cheers FP.
However, all I've learned from this is, don't be Q.
Yet, he was in the enviable position of landing a squirrel aboard a yacht worth more than an African nation. Like most accidents, they happen close to home or approach, be it approaching a ship, oil rig, or even Battersea
If it wasn't foggy, or if it wasn't shi$ty or if that obstacle was in the in the FMS and if the fuel filter cover stayed on etc, this thread like others wouldn't have started.
We have an accident, but 3 survivors. What SOPs will be drawn from this? Only time will time. It is the F1 circus in Monaco this weekend, so I imagine there will be more yachts and helicopters in action and more deckhands and captains checking their liability for any possible mishaps. Let's hope not.
Cheers FP.
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BluSdUp I did say potentially. It's not a certainty. It but I have worked in Norway, laws are very. Try different there when it comes to accidents/incidents.
As for SASY's comment maybe you should read my post which you quoted again. I think you have missed the point or points.
Crab, I knew what I was letting myself in for and as predicted....
As for SASY's comment maybe you should read my post which you quoted again. I think you have missed the point or points.
Crab, I knew what I was letting myself in for and as predicted....
G-SASY - if you want that then why don't you start with yours and then maybe Q's pprune handle?
A good landing is now defined as : PIC attends the press conference!
A great landing is now defined as : No press conference, and aircraft can be used again.
A great landing is now defined as : No press conference, and aircraft can be used again.
It is gratifying to see, despite some hard words back and forth, that the infamous pilot sense of humor remains alive and well. Goodonya, BluSdUp!
Oooh, this turned into quite an entertaining thread! Bit difficult to pick sides though with good points being made left and right!
Carry on please, popcorn is in the making.
Edit: Man, I broke the damn thread again. Why does this keep happening!
Carry on please, popcorn is in the making.
Edit: Man, I broke the damn thread again. Why does this keep happening!
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SS Bacarella leaves Bergen
According to Bergens Tidende, SS Bacarella left Bergen this morning after arriving April 29.
We assume they found a tarp that fit and some rope to tie it down with.
One of the locals suggested they renamed the Boat: SK Bacarella.
The SK short for Squirrel Killer? This was rejected!
Bon Voyage
We assume they found a tarp that fit and some rope to tie it down with.
One of the locals suggested they renamed the Boat: SK Bacarella.
The SK short for Squirrel Killer? This was rejected!
Bon Voyage
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
G-SASY - if you want that then why don't you start with yours and then maybe Q's pprune handle?