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S92 OEI into Sumburgh

Old 27th Nov 2016, 10:53
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My S92 type rating has at least an inch of dust on it now so that's why I said "some very modern aircraft". Ah I miss the APU!

Didn't want to 'black cat' the discussion but I had the pleasure of a 120nm OEI (full shutdown) transit 2 weeks ago in an Italian machine with starter generators, and that's how I knew the Sat track was wired to a non essential busbar. When I looked afterwards, I could find no mention of this in the RFM supplement or component main manual.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 12:26
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Fouled Runway? I suppose landing on a taxiway did not enter into the discussion at some point.

Having an aircraft overhead in the event of a Ditching....had Ditching been a concern....would not be a bad thing.

Perhaps we are beginning to think we are Airplane Pilots and need long runways to land on when we come ashore.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 13:29
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You don't 'foul a runway' by landing an S92 OEI! Why is that even being discussed? You simply taxi off and park and shutdown like any other flight.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 15:36
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Aside from which they were not OEI they reduced an engine to idle because of a chiplight.
They could, if twin engine power had been required, have returned the engine to "fly" on final.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 15:47
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Also have you guys looked at the aerodrome chart for Sumburgh (EGPB), loads of options especially for a helicopter in the very unlikely event (I agree with 212man & Albatross) of "fouling a rwy"

I'm not saying what the other helicopter did was wrong, without knowing all the facts you can't make a meaningful statement either way.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 19:01
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In the early days of the 332 we would have one flying back with an engine pulled back because of a spurious fire warning at least once a week.

Never bothered the papers.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 21:36
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Aside from which they were not OEI they reduced an engine to idle because of a chiplight.
They could, if twin engine power had been required, have returned the engine to "fly" on final.
Plus, an S92 on one engine doesn't exactly 'limp home'. I remember overtaking a British AAC B212 and being told over the RT we were showing off - I paused a moment and replied "I assume you know we are single engined?" (Which we were, in TNG mode.)
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Old 9th Dec 2016, 16:55
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Any news/preliminary report about this incident?
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Old 9th Dec 2016, 18:08
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Input chip caution came on, ECL followed and engine placed in idle. Caution extinguished after a while. Aircraft landed, no chip found. Aircraft returned to service.

Yawn.
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Old 9th Dec 2016, 18:29
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Don't they have fuzz burners like the S76 did.
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Old 9th Dec 2016, 18:38
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Yes it does. Six automatic attempts before the caution illuminates.
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Old 9th Dec 2016, 21:56
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Ukv1145, what you've written is wrong - the 92 sheds no services at all with a single generator failure, I suspect what you are thinking of is what you would lose with a dual gen failure and reliance on the APU gen only.
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Old 10th Dec 2016, 23:21
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FC80. Yes I badly worded my post. Double gen fail will shed services as you point out.
The SAR variant will shed services (SAR specific services) on a single gen fail. No services are shed OEI.
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 11:52
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https://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news...l-difficulties

Did they find the brick in the washing machine ?
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 15:25
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"A loud bang followed by a noise that sounded like a brick going round in a washing machine coming from the engines. The noise was so concerning that one of the passengers approached the pilots to raise their concerns"
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You don't 'foul a runway' by landing an S92 OEI! Why is that even being discussed? You simply taxi off and park and shutdown like any other flight.

As long as your operational engine doesn't calf on approach.
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Old 12th Dec 2016, 02:22
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Maybe their simulator training exercises all ended when the aircraft was on the ground and stopped on the runway. Maybe they were never trained to taxi the aircraft off the runway after an OEI landing in the sim
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