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Old 30th Mar 2021, 16:09
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Originally Posted by Evil Twin View Post
Any Lilium investors reading, I have a bridge for sale that you may be interested in.....
Seems there is lots of money for this project: https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospa...143112.article

Valued at $3B+ under this deal's terms.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 16:12
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Are they actually flying it?
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Less Hair View Post
Are they actually flying it?
Not to my knowledge, this is all 'on the come'. As with many others, they are selling a story,
The flood of money currently being pumped out by the authorities is fueling this and other speculations in aerospace.as well as elsewhere.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 20:24
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Foolish timing to make an announcement of futuristic product.

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Old 8th Jul 2021, 00:46
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5 years after starting this thread, Photographs and video of the full size interior of the 7 seater Lilium posted on Lilium's Facebook page.

https://fb.watch/v/1WHujFth4/
A striking interior, with fabulously large windows and an illuminated ceiling.

Is the canard a significant factor in pilot visibility?

If only it wasn't a mock-up

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Old 8th Jul 2021, 12:35
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Interesting to note that things that are missing in the interior:
  • Air Conditioning Vents
  • Reading Lights
  • Headset jacks
  • Escape Path Lighting
  • Fire Extinguishers
  • Emergency Exits
  • Seatbelts
Might be a little tricky to certify without these. They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.


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Old 8th Jul 2021, 15:31
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Originally Posted by rrekn View Post

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.
This is Lilium in a nutshell

The performance claims are made up.
The time line for entry into service is made up.
The physics are made up
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Old 8th Jul 2021, 20:36
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Just imagine! An 'illuminated cieling'!

Oh! The innovation!

I can't wait...
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 00:41
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The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 02:37
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.
Like the crapper on an F-28 or DC-9
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 08:38
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They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.
By the time they get up there, it will be time to descend anyway, so the pax won't have time to get hypoxic.
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 01:36
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Lillium just announced on video in Facebook page, they will ​launch product with piloted flights in 2024.Former CFO of autonomous car tech Cruise is CFO.
Former CEO of Airbus will be chairman.
They plan to launch on NASDAQ, valued at $3B!
"Lilium’s aircraft will have 30x fewer components than a commercial airliner and is designed for ease of manufacturability and scalability. Lilium applies automotive-style design for manufacturing methods and is designing for fully automated high-quality production of its engines, actuators and batteries"

Has anyone seen a project where all facets of such a disruptive new business, are in place before the product is proven?

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Old 27th Jul 2021, 03:19
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Lilium’s aircraft will have 30x fewer components than a commercial airliner
By "30x fewer" do they mean 1/30th of the number? Pretty easy for a piddly 6-seater to have 1/30th the components of a B787. Take 180 seats, divide by 6, you get 30. Simples!

Hope they aren't relying on Taiwan for any computer chips, they might not be available when China decides to move in next year.
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 11:24
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.
Now I know why the crew dims the cabin light during takeoff and landing.
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 12:06
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Originally Posted by rrekn View Post
Interesting to note that things that are missing in the interior:
  • Air Conditioning Vents
  • Reading Lights
  • Headset jacks
  • Escape Path Lighting
  • Fire Extinguishers
  • Emergency Exits
  • Seatbelts
Might be a little tricky to certify without these. They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.

wait wait… do you mean it has to be certified??? 😂
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 14:45
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they will ​launch product with piloted flights in 2024
This is the pilot controls:


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Old 27th Jul 2021, 21:42
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Originally Posted by cattletruck View Post
This is the pilot controls:

Seems to be a Germany specific issue, every dodgy promotion harvests there, thanks to demonstrably incompetent regulators. Look up Wirecard as the most recent example.
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 22:05
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Free Flights!

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This is the pilot controls:

Free flights: Up Up Down Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Select Start
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 23:56
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Originally Posted by Woolf View Post
Free flights: Up Up Down Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Select Start
That is pure gold!
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 06:36
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Seems to be a Germany specific issue, every dodgy promotion harvests there, thanks to demonstrably incompetent regulators.
They had cargo lifter we had Airlander. But they have Volocopter as well.
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