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Old 29th Mar 2016, 16:58
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Originally Posted by DrinkGirls
Official, no pay review for Bond employees this year. Thats going to make people want to work harder
Just be grateful you have a job IMO
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 17:18
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You mean they have had a review and decided there will be no pay rise. Hardly surprising in the present climate, Doh
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 17:28
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Oil and Gas company gets no payrise in the middle of a huge oil slump.

What a shock!
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 18:16
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BOH always got the oiled end of the deal...they always got higher pay but depended on their 'Industry' much more. - Did BAS get the same? - I doubt it.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 19:09
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I'm sure the lack of a pay rise will be repeated around the other North Sea operators.
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 21:11
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I wasn't talking about offshore, so stop patronising.
BAS are doing well and got nothing.
Also they didn't do a pay review and award nothing, there will be no pay review across the companies
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 22:16
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By far the largest potential cash generator (and potential loss maker when things take a downturn) in the Ex-Bond group is the offshore division. If offshore sneezes, everyone else catches a cold.

Senior management obviously reviewed whether to have a pay review and decided they wouldn't review pay. Is that a review or not?
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Old 29th Mar 2016, 22:27
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I have never known a time when so many highly experienced pilots were unemployed, to talk about pay rises at all right now is almost unbelievable!
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 00:51
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Just be grateful you have a job IMO
Exactly. I along with many others have been layed off this week from a large offshore operator. . The shows not over yet. Sad times for a lot of guys indeed.
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 06:04
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You are right of course, I DO realise that I am lucky.
On another day, if all other companies were doing ok and Bond Offshore were told no pay rise because BAS were losing money, you would all be equally understanding......... Or b.
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 06:20
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If the market allows the employer to not give a pay rise, why would they give it? they are not running a pilot charity down there in Staverton.

It's not like you will run off to better paid opportunities offshore right now, but in a year or two well maybe you would, so then a pay rise is possible.
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 06:49
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I suppose that I am hanging on to the days when the brothers owned the company. The staff put the extra in because they felt 'part of the team'. They knew the bros would not use the job market as a threat. Some of us still start early or come in on days off to get ahead of the game. For the first time in many years I have lost that desire. Shame really, but hey ho, that's reality for you
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 07:08
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That said, they would still be my company of choice so I am peeing on my own argument!
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 17:32
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I don't buy into this bond brothers 'team' business, sounds like a way they got you to do overtime for free to me.
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 20:58
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Bond management jump on a plane to accelerate dismissal of personnel at Blackpool base due to withdraw of night standby cover.

It's disappointing to hear that loyalty and professislism is rewarded this way. I suggest Bond are no different than other offshore operators when it comes down to it.

Best keep on looking over ones shoulder, who knows where the hammer is falling next.
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Old 30th Mar 2016, 23:50
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Hi SFIM
I suspect DrinkGirls is trying to point out that old Bond, under David and then Stephen and Peter, ran a tight ship. Manning was set at the minimum level which meant that when times were good, we worked our bits off to meet the demand. The upside of this was that when the cyclical slumps hit, we weren't laid off, didn't suffer pay cuts and didn't get our rosters changed quite so much. Yes, they made a nice penny out of it but we kept on paying our HP agreements and gas bills. Some people didn't like the demands, plenty appreciated the reliability of payment and seeing the people they were actually working for around the office.
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Old 31st Mar 2016, 07:39
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TeeS

Couldn't have put it better myself, I went there before it became Bond, the North Scottish days, and it was just as you say.
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Old 31st Mar 2016, 08:00
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Thank you, that was exactly it.
I am still happy under the new regime, they seem to be moving forward. I was registering a bit disappointment that the companies have been 'bunched together' this time when it comes to 2016s pay review, unlike past years. BAS have just been awarded some major contracts, what a well done to everyone.
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Old 31st Mar 2016, 08:07
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Originally Posted by SFIM
I don't buy into this bond brothers 'team' business, sounds like a way they got you to do overtime for free to me.
Then you didn't work under it. We were a team and a family. We were loyal to the company and went above and beyond because we were proud of who we worked for and we were rewarded for it.

That has all gone under the new owners, but that's progress for you!
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Old 31st Mar 2016, 13:33
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Then you didn't work under it
I think if you go beyond your contract to help them out on a repetitive basis, that they should reward you with some flash cash, not just some half baked idea of job security in the bad times 🤕

And when they sold out and pocketed their cash around the millennium time, I presume they gave you all a big bonus ?
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