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Bristow S76 Ditched in Nigeria today Feb 3 2016

Old 7th Feb 2016, 23:44
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With what little is known it is not prudent to speculate. It is obvious the crew did better than the Glasgow 135 pub crew, the Cougar S-92 crew (who in fairness were misled by Sikorsky), and a certain UH-1Y crew who had get home fever and ignored red warnings. These three were avoidable and caused loss of life. This S-76 did not have any fatalities so winners.

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Old 8th Feb 2016, 00:02
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Honestly, some of you guys just crack me up with your dumb comments which are either way off the mark or just cheap point scoring against either your company or the people in the country you voluntary decided to work in. If you don't like it why not just leave? Oh yes, I guess because that company in that country pays the salary and gives you the roster so you can live in your own (presumably much nicer) country with much nicer people and enjoy a pretty good standard of living.

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Centre of Excellence just refers to the Lagos State nickname on car number plates. It was used a lot more on the 'What's New in Nigeria' forum (as it was originally called) as a rather derisory term for a well-known Nigerian helicopter company. If you work in Port Harcourt, you'll be in the 'Treasure Base of the Nation', if in Delta, you'll be in 'The Finger of God' (though it used to be The Big Heart), if you're in Eket, you're in 'The Land of Promise'.

Yes Nigerian newspapers are pretty awful and sensational and whilst quite a few of their stories are about witches and goats being arrested for crimes, many of them do have a grain of truth. To be honest, I think most of them are no worse than the tabloids in many countries and some of the stories are so ridiculous as to be amusing. But then again, instead of highlighting anything as ridiculous as getting one letter wrong in the type of aircraft, like helipoloto, I just find it amusing. That, and getting the numbers wrong is almost always the case these days and no worse than the BBC or the New York Times (or El Pais or El Mundo in his own country). The Fourth Estate always glamourises the 'heroic' pilots who manage to land a 'stricken' aircraft, or sadly those who died at the hands of criminals as in the recent tragic case in Tanzania.

From what I have heard (again only hearsay), a call was made that there was a technical problem which may necessitate a ditching if it couldn't be cleared and this was relayed to Lagos approach by a Caverton helicopter crew. The problem got worse and a decision was made in difficult circumstances to ditch the aircraft (I'm sure whoever in Human Remains decided to call it a 'water landing' will remember that gaffe for years to come ). Many things could result in a decision to ditch from a loss of MGB oil pressure to a fire warning in the baggage compartment. I note that unlike many of those who would like to slag off the company they work for or the crew, Captain Jayeola is maintaining a dignified silence (whether from choice or company pressure).

At the end of the day, everybody who boarded the aircraft is still alive, a few have slight injuries and the insurance will pay for a new airframe and it really saddens me to read the openly sexist and crypto-racist comments on this thread. One of the most naturally gifted pilots I ever flew with was a lady and one of the best training captains I ever learned from was an African.
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Phone Wind, merely pointing out the thread error spelling of center, American and centre British, as on the license plates. As I also stated, I have never flown a S-76 and no longer work for Bristow. I have no opinion of what happened as I was not there.

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Old 8th Feb 2016, 09:27
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If you are going to demand centre of excellence ..... then you should have licence (not license) too!!
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At last a balanced, intelligent post. Thank you Phone Wind.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 11:28
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Honestly !!!!, are we getting down to correcting spelling mistakes, and yet, find out you are incorrect to correct !!!


British - Licence
USA - License


Not hard is it!


Glad all are OK on the flight, look forward to seeing the report


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Old 8th Feb 2016, 11:49
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Originally Posted by Keepitup View Post
look forward to seeing the report
Don't hold your breath.

There still hasn't been any sign of an accident report from the previous Bristow Nigeria 'water landing'.
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There still hasn't been any sign of an accident report from the previous Bristow Nigeria 'water landing'.
Apart from the preliminary report, you mean? http://www.aib.gov.ng/j867yh35d.php?...RS12082015.pdf

They also have a statement on their website about this latest incident:

Bristow Helicopter ditched enroute Lagos
Dateline: Lagos 03 February, 2016
Accident Investigation Bureau AIB has commenced
investigation into the ditching into the Atlantic Ocean
of a S76 C++ helicopter marked 5N-BQJ belonging to
Bristow Helicopters, which occurred at about 10:20am
local time today.
The aircraft with nine passengers and two crew
members had departed ERHA Oil Platform enroute
Lagos before it was ditched 95 nautical miles to
destination. No life was lost.
Details will be released later.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 12:24
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Looking through their other reports, I came across the BHL Citation accident at PH. http://www.aib.gov.ng/j867yh35d.php?filename=BRISTOW CITATION 5N-BMM.pdf

I can just imagine the scene after the impact.....

Following the lack of proper emergency procedures, which
led to some utterances in the cabin such as: "This door should
open in Jesus name, open in Jesus name" (CVR) The door was
jammed due to the severity of the impact.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 13:29
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Let's all raise our glasses to censorship. I don't know what is worse Bristow Nigeria Management or the censorship that goes on in this forum.
I don't know why we bother to write here if we can't do it freely and openly.
It is really frustrating working in a place where everything is corrupted and manipulated by the people in charge.
Is this also the way this forum works?
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 13:31
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Keep yer hair on ..... read post 55 ..... and you may find I too am correct ..... did-didnot centre/licence (noun only) UK ..... was it 92% or 94%
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 15:50
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Apart from the preliminary report, you mean? http://www.aib.gov.ng/j867yh35d.php?...RS12082015.pdf
That link is coming out as gobbledygook on my 'phone. Is it relating to the Super Puma that ditched a few years ago (and featured on YouTube)?
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Devil Agreed

I think that Bristow MGMT needs to apply the same sweeping changes to BATS and send home all remaining Xpat engineers and managers.

They really need to be consistent with their policy.

Once they have complete Nigerian content it will be a better company and the level of safety will be greatly improved.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 18:43
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That link is coming out as gobbledygook on my 'phone. Is it relating to the Super Puma that ditched a few years ago (and featured on YouTube)?
Yes, on mine too but works fine on a laptop. No, it is the preliminary report on the fatal 76 accident last August. It would appear that the Nigerian AIB was 'kick started' after the 332 ditching, and the last BHNL (rotary) report is the suicide in Eket. They have several other reports of local incidents though: Home | Accident Investigation Bureau so I think it's unfair (now) to say that this latest event won't have a report published.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 21:35
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That 412 accident was very sad. I endorsed that pilot about 1992 on the S76 & introduced him to offshore flying as well as instrument flying. When Lloyds won the Karratha contract, he moved there with his lovely wife & I thought they were a very happy couple, so I was surprised he had divorced & remarried & become a muslim in the Gulf. He left Lloyds when they lost the Karratha contract & moved to the Gulf to start a new life, much to all our surprise.
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Let's all raise our glasses to censorship. I don't know what is worse Bristow Nigeria Management or the censorship that goes on in this forum.
I don't know why we bother to write here if we can't do it freely and openly.
It is really frustrating working in a place where everything is corrupted and manipulated by the people in charge.
Is this also the way this forum works?
I agree, I wrote a post yesterday, much of it criticising some of your own posts but it was deleted by mods. Now we are united in being deleted.
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 23:36
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No doubt you think getting censored has something to do with political correctness. But your picture of a black female crew was clearly intended as a racist and sexist slur. Just dismal quite frankly.


Implying the forum is corrupt and manipulated just because you can't post what the hell you like is a bit of a stretch.
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Old 9th Feb 2016, 05:51
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Really?

I have never flown a S-76 and was not around when this happened. I do find it curious (if true) that a distress call was made and a split second decision was made to ditch 20 minutes later.
I flew B212/214ST and SK61/76's offshore for donkey's years.

If you lose tranny oil pressure, reduce power, descend to 50' Rad Alt and head for nearest land (or maybe boat/rig, depending how far out you are).

Call flight watch and tell them you have a problem that may require ditching.

If the tranny starts making really expensive noises put the rocket in the water - IMMEDIATELY.

Is there something about this scenario that eludes you?
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Old 9th Feb 2016, 06:45
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In other words, do what the RFM says
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ummmm, ....

In other words, do what the RFM says
Might work, eh?
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