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Sikorsky rolls out CH-53K King Stallion

Old 27th Oct 2015, 21:39
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COuldnt upload image as was on train from Kings X and all lights went out so after leaving station

Here's Sikorsky official photo,

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Old 28th Oct 2015, 08:46
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Impressive machine



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Old 2nd Nov 2015, 02:53
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A very impressive aircraft indeed. It would be nice if people would appreciate just how difficult a task it is to design and build such an aircraft.
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Old 2nd Nov 2015, 11:10
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First Flight

Congratulations to the whole team. It is always great to see a new aircraft take to the air for the first time. Since the 53E was such a workhorse, I can't wait to see what this one will do!
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Old 4th Apr 2016, 18:45
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From Flightglobal:

US Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) reported on 24 March that the King Stallion recently demonstrated its advertised speed of 140kts with 15° angle-of-bank turns.

The one thing not impressive about the 53K is its apparent pathetic performance. Is Sikosrky sandbagging this thing to 140 kts so the S-97 looks impressive at speeds well short of the V-22?

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Old 4th Apr 2016, 19:28
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Far more interesting to me was:

The cost of developing the aircraft has grown by 44% from $4.7 billion to $6.8 billion since 2005 and the procurement estimate for 200 aircraft stands at $19 billion.
44% is danger-close to Nunn–McCurdy
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Old 5th Apr 2016, 01:33
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After the Canadian 92, this is not surprising. Probably just the start.

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Old 5th Apr 2016, 10:24
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The Sultan might probably be only too familiar with all this, with his experience with the failed ARH programme cancellation?
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Old 5th Apr 2016, 14:48
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You are confused Sikosky did the multi-billion fiasco called the LHX as competently as they did the Can 92. The flaw with ARH was it was managed by the govt's LHX program who grew requirements until, to save themselves, they cancelled the mission. So now we have 64's doing scouting missions poorly.

One thing to note the 407 has better speed than the 53K.

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Old 6th Apr 2016, 09:10
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I am not in the least bit confused, and my comment is specific to the Bell ARH program. You appear to be doing a bit of revisionist history here, as the blame for the failure of this project lies firmly in the hands of Bell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_ARH-70_Arapaho

Oh, and the 53K has better payload than the 407.
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Old 6th Apr 2016, 12:33
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Originally Posted by The Sultan View Post
So now we have 64's doing scouting missions poorly.
I am not sure that you can say that with confidence, nor that you have any metrics to support that statement. Note: I thought the Kiowa Warrior was a great asset.
Please don't ignore how much the UAV/RPV family of unmanned aircraft, of sizes down to hand launched, have intruded on the manned recon mission's rice bowl. I got a good look at that in OIF about ten years ago, and the UAV's role has grown since. FWIW, I suspect that ARH was a victim of bad timing ... +/- two years on that acquisition time line and I suspect it would not have been cnx'd.
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Old 6th Apr 2016, 20:27
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Oh, and the 53K has better payload than the 407.
Thus far, I think 53K has demonstrated a max payload of...2 crew?
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 17:48
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CH-53K arrived in Europe

It has arrived today, in Germany ahead of next month's ILA,

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Old 28th Mar 2018, 19:02
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Originally Posted by SansAnhedral View Post
Thus far, I think 53K has demonstrated a max payload of...2 crew?
Update:

http://news.lockheedmartin.com/2018-...295_128428-117

36k lb external load
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 23:43
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Originally Posted by SansAnhedral View Post
Far more interesting to me was:



44% is danger-close to Nunn–McCurdy

That is no problem....I donated to the Kitty today so the USMC should be good to go for a while!
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 11:20
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Originally Posted by Droop Snoot
Not that impressive. The YCH-53E demo'd a 35,600 lb external payload lift on August 10th, 1974, with 40% less installed power.

The impressive performance will be when the CH-53K demonstrates its ability to lift heavy payloads over long distances at high/hot conditions.

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The impressive performance will be when the CH-53K demonstrates its ability to lift heavy payloads over long distances at high/hot conditions.



Hot/High, Long Distance, heavy payloads....so what is the competition in that contest?

The 101, NH-90, Belvedere or the venerable Chinook?
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Hot/High, Long Distance, heavy payloads....so what is the competition in that contest?

The 101, NH-90, Belvedere or the venerable Chinook?
Not a chance with any of those but the Mi-26?
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 12:18
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Originally Posted by SASless
Hot/High, Long Distance, heavy payloads....so what is the competition in that contest?

The 101, NH-90, Belvedere or the venerable Chinook?
Halo aside, I guess the answer is multiple Chinooks. Just as the CH-47F was the default platform in Afghanistan for lifting Black Hawk-sized payloads at 10,000 ft HLZs, the CH-53K will be able to lift CH-47-sized payloads at high altitudes, albeit at a price.

The current CH-47F can carry 16k lb @ 4K/95F, while the CH-53K's baseline requirement is 27k lb @ 3K/95F (with an objective requirement of 30k lb @ 3K/95F). The Block II CH-47F will close the gap slightly, but the CH-53K will remain king of the hill, thanks in no small part to its 22,500 shp of installed power.

(Let's see what happens when Boeing sticks a couple of T408s in the CH-47. )

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Old 29th Mar 2018, 12:31
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The RAF is said to be called by Boeing to send one of their Odiham Chinooks to ILA as well.
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