AW139 G-LBAL helicopter crash in Gillingham, Norfolk
Inditrees - my comment was a riposte to BB's jibe at dispersed SAR flts not being very busy - my intent was to highlight that quantity is not a reliable indicator of quality as the NS safety record (discussed at length on other threads) has not been good of late.
If the cadets comment was to do with the Wessex crash into the lake in N Wales many years ago, two good firends were on that flight and I visited them in hospital the next day along with the surviving cadets - I don't need telling of the anguish of the parents of those who were lost.
If the cadets comment was to do with the Wessex crash into the lake in N Wales many years ago, two good firends were on that flight and I visited them in hospital the next day along with the surviving cadets - I don't need telling of the anguish of the parents of those who were lost.
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So why not just program the aircraft to do what you want, hit "Go", sit back and enjoy a cup of Tea while the aircraft flies you to your destination and lands for you?
Could it be this was part of the problem - it certainly sounds feasible, a simple lack hands-on IF skills from both crew.
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So why not just program the aircraft to do what you want, hit "Go", sit back and enjoy a cup of Tea while the aircraft flies you to your destination and lands for you?
Had problem with above link...
This one should work
Air Accidents Investigation: Download PDF document
yep 212 my bad, but above still NOK
This one should work
Air Accidents Investigation: Download PDF document
yep 212 my bad, but above still NOK
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AAIB Special Bulletin
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It reads almost like the summing up report from the AAIB about the crash doesn't it - without apportioning blame (as ever).
Dear dear......how many private operators will take heed. methinks?
Dear dear......how many private operators will take heed. methinks?
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Very impressed now at least when a captain is put under pressure to fly they can now simply pull up this document and show the punter what it says and be able to back up their decision to go or not to go
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Private and Aerial Work Helicopter Operations – Guidance On Aerodrome Operating Minima For IFR Departures
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Discussion in this thread:
Private and Aerial Work Helicopter Operations – Guidance On Aerodrome Operating Minima For IFR Departures
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Lord Ballyedmond: Report says pilots unhappy about fog - BBC News
Not the first and sadly won't be the last.
Not the first and sadly won't be the last.
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What sad sad reading .....Oh how I wish my ex-Chief Pilots and those private owners who damned the decisions I made if they didn't suit their wishes could all read and reflect on this AAIB report.
Shame the one thing that would have prevented the accident - adequate training in vertical departure profiles on instruments - isn't a recommendation because everyone gets caught up in the Vmini definition.
It is a helicopter and they are capable of safe vertical procedures (as anyone in the military will know) with sole reference to instruments - it is about time the CAA and EASA recognised that and ,mandated it as part of the training and IR.
The military even did it (and some still do) in an unstabilised single, quite safely so in a fully specc'd IFR twin it would be easy peasy.
It is a helicopter and they are capable of safe vertical procedures (as anyone in the military will know) with sole reference to instruments - it is about time the CAA and EASA recognised that and ,mandated it as part of the training and IR.
The military even did it (and some still do) in an unstabilised single, quite safely so in a fully specc'd IFR twin it would be easy peasy.