Female military chopperpilots crash less often
They ar supposed to be better pilots because they are safer. The crunch comes in a war. The deciding factor then is whether women get shot down more often than men, or vise-versa.
All they have to do is keep the helicopter somewhat up right and they will never have a Crack Up!
Any married man can tell you of the natural superiority of Women.
Any married man can tell you of the natural superiority of Women.
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interesting article
hmm, most female pilots I got to know have some talent for flying.. For me it looks they want to fly because its just really what they want to do. I can't say completely the same about the male part. Some just want to fly because of ...being male. Perhaps just more chaff with male pilots?
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It says 3.8% of Apache-D pilots (is that both crew members counting as "pilots") are female.
If male Apache-D crew are injured in accidents in the ratio 52:0 against women, then that's pushing up to being significant, but not really worth very much yet, as you'd only expect about 2 female accidents for every 52 male based on the demographics.
As to whether women get shot down more - 31 of those 52 accidents were "in theater", so the answer is… again, not enough information.
If male Apache-D crew are injured in accidents in the ratio 52:0 against women, then that's pushing up to being significant, but not really worth very much yet, as you'd only expect about 2 female accidents for every 52 male based on the demographics.
As to whether women get shot down more - 31 of those 52 accidents were "in theater", so the answer is… again, not enough information.
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Looks significant to me.
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I only took a quick look, but with A and D models together we have 85 accidents and 10% of pilots are women, so I am expecting 8.5 accidents with women, the fact that there are none is significant at about 3 sigma, around 1/1000 chance.
I do not know how crew parings are chosen, but if not biased then I might expect 1/10 females suggests, 1/100 all female, 18/100 mixed, 81 all male in which case, there would be 19% of crews that were not exclusively male and so I would expect 19% of 85 , i.e. 16 accidents were we have none out of 85. Even more significant.
It says 3.8% of Apache-D pilots (is that both crew members counting as "pilots") are female.
I do not know how crew parings are chosen, but if not biased then I might expect 1/10 females suggests, 1/100 all female, 18/100 mixed, 81 all male in which case, there would be 19% of crews that were not exclusively male and so I would expect 19% of 85 , i.e. 16 accidents were we have none out of 85. Even more significant.
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I didn't see numbers for the A model, and it does depend how they count "female" crews.
The 10% was for all aircrew.
If you assume Apache As and Ds have the same male/female ratio, then you can use 81 injury accidents in the numbers, but there are only 3.8% female Apache crew, not 10%, which makes (at random) about 8% Apache crews with a female crewmember.
However, the rate is for injuries, so you should be counting heads, not crews.
That is getting more significant, but it's still at the (3.8/100)*85 ~ 3.2 level, where Poisson helps to make it less than significant with these small numbers at present.
I suspect what's happening is that there's a higher threshold of performance required for women to make it onto Apaches - reflecting the factor of 3 fewer women on Apaches than flying elsewhere in the Army. Thus that female Apache pilots are just on average "better". I wonder what the accident statistics are for the "best" third of male Apache pilots?
The 10% was for all aircrew.
If you assume Apache As and Ds have the same male/female ratio, then you can use 81 injury accidents in the numbers, but there are only 3.8% female Apache crew, not 10%, which makes (at random) about 8% Apache crews with a female crewmember.
However, the rate is for injuries, so you should be counting heads, not crews.
That is getting more significant, but it's still at the (3.8/100)*85 ~ 3.2 level, where Poisson helps to make it less than significant with these small numbers at present.
I suspect what's happening is that there's a higher threshold of performance required for women to make it onto Apaches - reflecting the factor of 3 fewer women on Apaches than flying elsewhere in the Army. Thus that female Apache pilots are just on average "better". I wonder what the accident statistics are for the "best" third of male Apache pilots?
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In a Male Dominated career field....how many Women are Aircraft Commanders?
Far too many Women report Bias hampering their progression.
Stands to reason....if the Ladies are being held back and not being allowed to move up to Command....then they would be under represented in the Accident Stats.
Far too many Women report Bias hampering their progression.
Stands to reason....if the Ladies are being held back and not being allowed to move up to Command....then they would be under represented in the Accident Stats.
Old true story . .. . . . . the airline interview . .. . . .ticks all the boxes with the panel .. . . . one of whom asks as she is standing up to leave -
"By the way . . . sexual harassment . . . .. do you have anything to say on that subject? How would you handle a situation like that?"
"I'd ask him not to say a word."
(you just got to love sassy)
Another case of speed of lightning -
Heard from Nomad waaaaay out over ocean on radar patrol
"Um..the left chip light's come on. . . .. . ops normal ......call again at three-zero"
Later...
"Um..ooer..the right chip light's just come on"
Quick as a flash from another company aircraft ..
"Can I have yer car?"
"By the way . . . sexual harassment . . . .. do you have anything to say on that subject? How would you handle a situation like that?"
"I'd ask him not to say a word."
(you just got to love sassy)
Another case of speed of lightning -
Heard from Nomad waaaaay out over ocean on radar patrol
"Um..the left chip light's come on. . . .. . ops normal ......call again at three-zero"
Later...
"Um..ooer..the right chip light's just come on"
Quick as a flash from another company aircraft ..
"Can I have yer car?"
If the data set is Apache Pilots, then the controls are conventional.
Stick in the middle, one leg on each side to the rudder pedals, and left hand on the collective/power.
Working hypothesis on this report:
Unlike male pilots, female pilots would be less likely to mistake what stick between the legs they are manipulating, and thus might be less likely to make mechanical flying errors.
Stick in the middle, one leg on each side to the rudder pedals, and left hand on the collective/power.
Working hypothesis on this report:
Unlike male pilots, female pilots would be less likely to mistake what stick between the legs they are manipulating, and thus might be less likely to make mechanical flying errors.
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There was an old story from many moons back regarding a pilot interview for British Airways. The interviewer in Personnel (see, pre HR days!) asked the candidate...
'You've landed away and the crew are overnighting, you decide to meet at the bar before dinner and your Captain walks in wearing a dress...what are your thoughts'
'Well' starts the candidate 'I suppose not so strange nowadays, I would be supportive and encouraging and making sure the issue is not a problem for the crew but if he tries any funny stuff on me...it won't work,no'
The interviewer replies, 'that says a lot really you've automatically assumed that the Captain is a man'
'Hmmm, a woman? Like I said, not so strange nowadays' retorted the unsuccessful applicant.
Frying Pan
'You've landed away and the crew are overnighting, you decide to meet at the bar before dinner and your Captain walks in wearing a dress...what are your thoughts'
'Well' starts the candidate 'I suppose not so strange nowadays, I would be supportive and encouraging and making sure the issue is not a problem for the crew but if he tries any funny stuff on me...it won't work,no'
The interviewer replies, 'that says a lot really you've automatically assumed that the Captain is a man'
'Hmmm, a woman? Like I said, not so strange nowadays' retorted the unsuccessful applicant.
Frying Pan
