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Old 15th Nov 2013, 19:19
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400, rather than 397 or 409. Seems a nice round number.
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Grrr

Some more exciting police helicopter action from Norwich.
Police helicopter, firefighters in dinghy and police dogs search for large boat cruiser stolen in Thorpe St Andrew, Norwich
The boat was stolen from near Kingfisher Cruisers in Bungalow Lane at 6pm, and led to a police helicopter searching the scene and a crew from Norfolk fire service deployed their inflatable dinghy to help.

The green 33ft long Aqua Fibre 33 cruiser, with a white cabin, was later recovered further along the River Yare close to the A47 at Postwick, heading in the Bramerton direction.
Pretty exciting stuff
The police called firefighters to help them in the operation, and one fire engine from Carrow and a Environment Agency and Fire and Rescue Service van arrived in Thorpe St Andrew at about 10pm. Specialist Broadsbeat officers and the dog unit also helped.

The firefighters launched the dinghy from River Green, near the Rushcutter pub on Yarmouth Road, at 10.28pm, with four firefighters using head torches and lamps.

No arrests have been made.
That will be an expensive waste of time then
Source Police helicopter, firefighters in dinghy and police dogs search for large boat cruiser stolen in Thorpe St Andrew, Norwich - Crime - Eastern Daily Press
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DON'T FEED THE TROLL

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Old 20th Nov 2013, 17:22
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Damian Green:

"I don't win elections by fiddling voting figures & don't expect police to cut crime by fiddling crime stats."


Of course, we all know that individual politicians wouldn't dream of such a thing, however ...

Nick Clegg pressures Ed Miliband on Labour's Falkirk 'vote-rigging' inquiry.

Police vote rigging probe into Labour could be UK-wide.

Tory candidate 'conspired to rig General Election result through postal vote fraud'.

Judge upholds vote-rigging claims.
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YOP You really are a very sad and bitter individual, I rather pitty you.
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 20:49
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Better pity the Norfolk Police commissioner found fiddling his expenses.
BBC News - Norfolk PCC Stephen Bett pays back more than £3,000 in expenses

And the story below is the tip of the iceberg. Many have employed friends and family on the gravy train. If you think a police helicopter costing thousands is justified to trace a boat than can only travel at about five knots we had better get NATO in for stolen cars and burglaries.(Whoops..sorry those are solved with crime numbers)
A police and crime commissioner who claimed more than £3,000 for driving between his home and his official headquarters is to pay the money back.

Stephen Bett, PCC for Norfolk, claimed for 70 trips from his home to the offices in Wymondham.

He said he had done nothing wrong but would return the money so that the controversy would not "tarnish the reputation of policing in Norfolk".

He said he would no longer claim mileage for those journeys.

Mr Bett, a former Conservative county councillor and Norfolk Police Authority chairman, was elected as independent PCC a year ago on an annual salary of £70,000.

On taking up the post, he designated his home at Thornham, near Hunstanton, as his workplace, and claimed mileage expenses when travelling from there on PCC business.

From November 2012 to August 2013, he claimed a total of £4,947.75 in mileage expenses.

Of that, £3,024 was solely for the 96-mile round trip from his home to the headquarters in Wymondham.

For each of these 70 trips, he received £43.20.

Richard Murphy, a chartered accountant and economist, said the claims were not tax-allowable and could not be justified.

Jon Harvey, a Labour town councillor in Buckingham and a blogger on PCCs, said he was "stunned and surprised" at Mr Bett's mileage claims and described them as a "kamikaze move".

After the BBC broke the story, Mr Bett issued a statement saying he would pay back the money.

"On election I took advice on how and what I could claim and have followed that advice to the letter. I do not believe I have done anything wrong.

"I was absolutely clear from the start that my personal office would be my home and this was checked and cleared by the Office of the Police and Crime Commissioner for Norfolk and my accountant.

"As far as I am concerned this was all transparent and above board."
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 21:27
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YOP - you're clutching at straws now.

If you want to see what police choppers get up to why not check out their twitter feeds?

If I had been a victim of crime I'd like to think the police would do everything in their power to a) retrieve any stolen property and b) catch the purpertraitors - a helicopter in conjunction with other ground assets surely helps guarantee the best result possible. If the non-desirable gets away with it then at least the police TRIED.

Recent posts on this thread have quite simply been a load of crap.

Anyway, back to Emmerdale for me.

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Old 21st Nov 2013, 21:30
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… and here's one back at your old employer YOP;

BBC spends £26,000 on taxis between London and Salford - Telegraph

Figures obtained by The Daily Telegraph under Freedom of Information show that the corporation spent more than £1.9million on rail, air and taxi travel between London and the corporation's new headquarters in Salford.
A total of 61 taxi bookings were made for the 200 mile journey, costing £420 each. The majority of the taxis were booked for guests on programmes based in Salford, such as BBC Breakfast, BBC Radio 5 Live and BBC Sport.
A further 201 staff and guests opted to fly between London and Manchester, costing licence free payers £25,000.
The biggest bill, however, was for rail travel, with 26,265 journeys made between London and Manchester at a total cost of £1.9million. Spending on rail travel has almost doubled since 2011.

Many staff working in Salford have opted not to move there permanently.
A total of 174 staff have taken advantage of a halfway-house deal, officially called the "remote location allowance", under which they keep their main home in London and have some of their rent and expenses paid.
Each member of staff is given an allowance of up to £3,390 a month before tax, equivalent to £40,680 a year. To date, this has cost the corporation £3.3 million.
Susanna Reid and Bill Turnbull, the BBC breakfast presenters are among those who have taken advantage of the allowance.
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Old 21st Nov 2013, 22:02
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I agree about Salford Sid. A total and very expensive cock up for purely political reasons.

The same goes for having all the separate UK police forces with the expensive chain of command from the Chief Constables via the Police Commissioners down through the back office staff.

What's wrong with one UK police force?

NPAS is a good idea but deployments should be more focused and controlled.
The boat chase I highlighted is a good example but why do I see so many petty criminals being chased by a taxpayer funded helicopter on TV. The Jamie Theakston pay off is usually they got a slap on the wrist!!

In an ideal world as a taxpayer I'd like to see the charity air ambulance merged with police air operations.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 00:29
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why not check out their PPRuNe feeds?
Twitter feeds perhaps??
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 07:41
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What has the taxpayer got to do with a charity? At a major incident, we can be on the ground up to two hours, what happens to the police cover then?
You sir, have no idea of the real world. Secondly, people in this part of the world will put money in a tin for a charity, not for the police. The air ambulances are stand alone, freeing us from the beauracratic NONSENSE of a national organisation. You would never be able to get to a job in time because of the ridiculous red tape of a national agency. In summary, people would be dying while we waited for permission to lift.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 08:26
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MG! The strangest thing happens - i write the T word but it posted as pprune? I go to edit it and it says the T word?!?

How bizarre! This is probably more breaking news than anything to do with NPAS!

Mr Senior Pilot is this a PPruNe conspiracy to take over the world? Will it be floating on the stock market?!?
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 09:19
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I blame the conspiracy to take over the world on Dr Evil, because when you type in laser, it comes up with l@ser


… it's either him or Auric Goldfinger
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 17:07
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Oh well, at least austin wont have to file any MORs
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 10:23
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At the risk of feeding (or even educating) a troll.

Sorry boys and girls, couldn't resist, this is aimed at YOP and YOP only as most on here are sane level headed people with a good/excellent knowledge of our industry.

A thirty second google map search shows this potential search area.

Even at a steady 4mph the potential areas that boat could have made it to are huge, most of them don't have a footpath or roadway anywhere near them. The most obvious resource is...............yes a helicopter. Now i'm not good at boats but again a quick google found this even second hand its £87,000!!!

Now if I had a £87,000 anything, I and I'm sure my insurance company would want the Police to at least put some effort into finding it.

I seem to remember somewhere in the dim and distant past being told it is the duty of the police to detect and recover stolen property.

Get real you halfwit. Stick to journalism and leave Police work to.......the Police.


As a taxpayer I would like to see an independent review panel to monitor and curtail the excesses of so called journalism in all it's forms..............but it's probably never gonna happen.

Rant over back to painting the wall.
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 15:58
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Get real you halfwit
I feel that is more credit than deserved. I think we are having a battle of wits with an unarmed man/woman/other.
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Old 25th Nov 2013, 07:16
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Now now,

Don't make him angry !

I have it on very good authority that you wouldn't like him when he's angry !

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Old 25th Nov 2013, 22:06
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A lot of the real ex army pilots never wanted to end their careers chasing
kids stealing cars.Hence the .....
Chief Flying Instructor in the UK's only Manned Airborne Surveillance Regiment at Aldergrove in Northern Ireland.
having a nice career post army.

Not going down the same road as a lot of Wallop pilots.

I guess Barry will not be on Silsoe and Thomas's card list this Christmas.
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Old 25th Nov 2013, 22:47
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A thirty second google map search shows this potential search area.

Even at a steady 4mph the potential areas that boat could have made it to are huge, most of them don't have a footpath or roadway anywhere near them. The most obvious resource is...............yes a helicopter. Now i'm not good at boats but again a quick google found this even second hand its £87,000!!!
Now if I had a £87,000 anything, I and I'm sure my insurance company would want the Police to at least put some effort into finding it.
I seem to remember somewhere in the dim and distant past being told it is the duty of the police to detect and recover stolen property.
Get real you halfwit. Stick to journalism and leave Police work to.......the Police.
As a taxpayer I would like to see an independent review panel to monitor and curtail the excesses of so called journalism in all it's forms..............but it's probably never gonna happen.
Rant over back to painting the wall.
Nice to know the police do a financial assessment before they launch. Detect and recover stolen property as you say. Get real ...they issue crime numbers for insurance claims.
Now if I had a £87,000 anything, I and I'm sure my insurance company would want the Police to at least put some effort into finding it.
I'd better phone my insurance company to get the chopper in the air the next time my ride on mower valued at £3k is pinched then.The boat owner in question kicked up a stink but the boat was insured. Are you saying if it was a stolen moped the police would launch the helicopter?

Poor mugged/robbed average people can't just get Jamie Theakston to voice over the heli hero's to save them.
The money spent on that stupid use of police resources would have been better used elsewhere.
Lord Stevens backs me on my approach.
BBC News - 'Abolish' Police and Crime Commissioners report urges
His review
recommends that some police forces are merged.
It says the current 43-force structure is "untenable".
The review suggests the Inspectorate of Constabulary and Independent Police Complaints Commission are replaced, and a focus on neighbourhood policing is also being urged.
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fish A reply made from African Blackwood

YOP

"A chip on the shoulder" comes from the ancient right of shipwrights within the Royal Navy Dockyards to take home a daily allowance of offcuts of timber, even if good wood was cut up for this purpose.

Good Luck
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