UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 3
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IMHO, the PCC is barking as loud as he can, for as long as he can. Proof of the pudding is when the contracts run out, until then we'll have to listen to his table banging rants. Lets wait a while and see how he stands up against The Home Office.
Not knowing the detail, but as far as the mutual aid request goes, why would that be a tougher call than normal? Anyway, if SW didn't want to do it, I know a unit that would
Not knowing the detail, but as far as the mutual aid request goes, why would that be a tougher call than normal? Anyway, if SW didn't want to do it, I know a unit that would
The missing Tech Log shouldn't be a problem as the maintenance organisation(PAS) should have copies.
But PAS were not the maintenance organisation until April when the aircraft was summarily dropped in their lap .......
Two mixed stories running here. Missing documentation and no spares I wonder which is the more important?
But PAS were not the maintenance organisation until April when the aircraft was summarily dropped in their lap .......
Two mixed stories running here. Missing documentation and no spares I wonder which is the more important?
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South Wales Police raise serious concerns about National Police Air Service
SOUTH Wales Police will only give up its helicopter and join a national service when it gets guarantees about the level of service, according to the force's commissioner.
Both the joint South Wales/Gwent and the Dyfed-Powys choppers are due to be axed this month, as the National Police Air Service (NPAS) takes over from dedicated force aircraft.
SOUTH Wales Police will only give up its helicopter and join a national service when it gets guarantees about the level of service, according to the force's commissioner.
Both the joint South Wales/Gwent and the Dyfed-Powys choppers are due to be axed this month, as the National Police Air Service (NPAS) takes over from dedicated force aircraft.
Is the PCC being told the full story?
10. Where are the new bases going to be located?
Under NPAS it is proposed that there will be twenty three air support bases at strategic locations that provide the operational capability to deliver an enhanced service. The NPAS base locations are:
Barton Moss, Greater Manchester
Benson, Oxfordshire
Birmingham Airport, Birmingham
Boreham, Essex
Bournemouth Airport, Bournemouth
Carr Gate, West Yorkshire
Durham Tees Valley Airport, Teeside
Exeter Airport, Exeter
Filton, Avon and Somerset
Halfpenny Green, Wolverhampton
Hawarden, North Wales
Honington, Suffolk
Humberside Airport, Humberside
Husbands Bosworth, Leicestershire
Lippitt’s Hill, Essex
Newcastle Airport, Newcastle
Pembrey, Dyfed-Powys
Redhill, Surrey
Rhuddlan, Denbighshire
Ripley, Derbyshire
Sheffield, South Yorkshire
St Athan, Glamorgan, South Wales
Warton, Lancashire
Under NPAS it is proposed that there will be twenty three air support bases at strategic locations that provide the operational capability to deliver an enhanced service. The NPAS base locations are:
Barton Moss, Greater Manchester
Benson, Oxfordshire
Birmingham Airport, Birmingham
Boreham, Essex
Bournemouth Airport, Bournemouth
Carr Gate, West Yorkshire
Durham Tees Valley Airport, Teeside
Exeter Airport, Exeter
Filton, Avon and Somerset
Halfpenny Green, Wolverhampton
Hawarden, North Wales
Honington, Suffolk
Humberside Airport, Humberside
Husbands Bosworth, Leicestershire
Lippitt’s Hill, Essex
Newcastle Airport, Newcastle
Pembrey, Dyfed-Powys
Redhill, Surrey
Rhuddlan, Denbighshire
Ripley, Derbyshire
Sheffield, South Yorkshire
St Athan, Glamorgan, South Wales
Warton, Lancashire
...or maybe it's personal.
A politician, after the expenses escapade, still looking out for himself?
A police helicopter operating over Penarth tonight is reported to have spotlighted three burglars attempting to break in to premises at 2 Stanwell Road – next door to the home of South Wales Police and Crime Commissioner Alun Michael.
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Very dubious. I always get an uncomfortable feeling when stuff gets single-sourced. It usually ends in tears, or worse.
No doubt if asked, NPAS would say "it will improve efficiency and cost-effectiveness" and allow all helicopters to engage warp drive.
However, I should say that I have usually found the engineers in the hangar to be reliable.
No doubt if asked, NPAS would say "it will improve efficiency and cost-effectiveness" and allow all helicopters to engage warp drive.
However, I should say that I have usually found the engineers in the hangar to be reliable.
EC UK only have the EC type maintenance until the results of the current tender process to decide who will run the support from April 1, 2014.
With the untimely demise of South Yorkshire and the long term actuality of use of EC UK engineers by Devon & Cornwall it was [probably] decided to clear the decks prior to the new order whatever that brings.
Perhaps the argument here should shift to which organisation can provide maintenance for both the MD and EC or whether it will have to be split by make and then who can do the deed as well as PAS and ECUK? In each case I guess spares will have to arrive via Oxford or Staverton.... with little option.
I do not know which is best but PAS and EC UK will be the benchmarks.
With the untimely demise of South Yorkshire and the long term actuality of use of EC UK engineers by Devon & Cornwall it was [probably] decided to clear the decks prior to the new order whatever that brings.
Perhaps the argument here should shift to which organisation can provide maintenance for both the MD and EC or whether it will have to be split by make and then who can do the deed as well as PAS and ECUK? In each case I guess spares will have to arrive via Oxford or Staverton.... with little option.
I do not know which is best but PAS and EC UK will be the benchmarks.
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Ode to NPAS Engineering (ECPM)
O, venerable Daedalae of the twirling blades, draw heart that those less worthy, whose bombastic blather blinded the Gods with vindication before assassination, will surely rue the day they wielded their knives with such ill-considered counsel.
Public torment will surely possess those who guard the gelt when realisation appears, sure and steady like the diurnal orb above the horizon, to shine its rays upon the serpent, it’s constrictor coils wrapped tightly round the prize but its belly still distended with the contents of the erstwhile martyr, too late to have saved the last bastion of competition from the pyre of pecuniary exactness, and all enacted without sagacity, dexterity, sensitivity or redress. R.I.P.
Public torment will surely possess those who guard the gelt when realisation appears, sure and steady like the diurnal orb above the horizon, to shine its rays upon the serpent, it’s constrictor coils wrapped tightly round the prize but its belly still distended with the contents of the erstwhile martyr, too late to have saved the last bastion of competition from the pyre of pecuniary exactness, and all enacted without sagacity, dexterity, sensitivity or redress. R.I.P.
Interesting piece on the BBC news today about the South Yorkshire police aircraft log books being stolen and arrests being made. Might be old news but I hadn't seen it before.
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From BBC News
Two members of staff at South Yorkshire Police have been arrested on suspicion of stealing the force helicopter's logbook.
It is understood one of those arrested is a police officer and the other a member of staff. Both have been released on bail.
In a statement, South Yorkshire Police said the arrests were "part of an ongoing criminal investigation".
It is understood one of those arrested is a police officer and the other a member of staff. Both have been released on bail.
In a statement, South Yorkshire Police said the arrests were "part of an ongoing criminal investigation".
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Anyone else read this summers Helicopter Life Mag yet?
Interesting comment on the Rotary Operators Conference held at Battersea last month.
The conference were told;
Helicopter Life
Not signed up!!!
Only 5 months to get that little bombshell sorted then
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Interesting comment on the Rotary Operators Conference held at Battersea last month.
The conference were told;
The Met Police have three EC145s but at the moment one is in for deep maintenance and one of the other two is running low on hours, this is for many operators a normal situation.
On a daily basis the Met Police helicopter will be called for tasking sixty times of which twenty four will be fulfilled. Partly this is because some of the tasks are not suitable for a helicopter but other reasons include the weather, the limited number of helicopters and occasionally because of crewing issues (pilots running out of hours for example).
At the moment The Met Police are not signed up for NPAS, which is run from West Yorkshire. If they do however there will inevitably be inummerable changes to deal with on top of the daily issues.
On a daily basis the Met Police helicopter will be called for tasking sixty times of which twenty four will be fulfilled. Partly this is because some of the tasks are not suitable for a helicopter but other reasons include the weather, the limited number of helicopters and occasionally because of crewing issues (pilots running out of hours for example).
At the moment The Met Police are not signed up for NPAS, which is run from West Yorkshire. If they do however there will inevitably be inummerable changes to deal with on top of the daily issues.
Not signed up!!!
Only 5 months to get that little bombshell sorted then
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Someone way up on high probably thought this process would be quick and simple even with sections of the police aviation community being antagonistic towards the whole concept.
That someone clearly never spent 30 years on the street with real police persons.
All very predictable.
I wonder whether anyone from NPAS has had a delivery of a lorry load of manure onto their drive..... or a 1,000 bricks....yet?
That someone clearly never spent 30 years on the street with real police persons.
All very predictable.
I wonder whether anyone from NPAS has had a delivery of a lorry load of manure onto their drive..... or a 1,000 bricks....yet?
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Two members of staff at South Yorkshire Police have been arrested on suspicion of stealing the force helicopter's logbook.