Bell 505 Jet Ranger X
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Couldn’t be much simpler or safer....
The Robbie’s have lots of hot starts from 44 owners moving to 66’s and getting the throttle confused with the R44 setup.
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I like the idea of being able to control throttle a little if approaching with a tail rotor failure / loss of control etc.
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I heard a flight of two 505’s on 126.7 going into Chapleau for fuel early this last week while I was heading up North. Think they were heading to Mirabel from Baker Lake.Cold weather trials up there I think.
I’m in Thompson MB bird towing at the moment and there is a Bell 525 up here doing cold WX stuff at the airport -40c today!! That is one sweet aircraft. It’s flying off the same ramp as us.
I heard a flight of two 505’s on 126.7 going into Chapleau for fuel early this last week while I was heading up North. Think they were heading to Mirabel from Baker Lake.Cold weather trials up there I think.
I’m in Thompson MB bird towing at the moment and there is a Bell 525 up here doing cold WX stuff at the airport -40c today!! That is one sweet aircraft. It’s flying off the same ramp as us.
Newfie... yes , I have just heard from Bell this morning about their cold weather trials @-40deg !!! Apparently the 505 had no problems at all and started multiple times just off battery. Also hear that all of them now being delivered have longer skids which must be better for off airfield landings let alone aesthetics.
I hear there will be autopilot and aux tanks next year as well which I will retrofit .
I hear there will be autopilot and aux tanks next year as well which I will retrofit .
Japan Coast Guard Bell 505
Japan Coast Gaurd just taken delivery of Bell 505 ,
cheers
cheers
Well maybe i am the only one ...but that looks a really nice helicopter for under £1m brand new ( and that is with a load of extras such as Rotor Break , Synthetic Vision , Collision Avoidance , Exec seats etc etc ) 
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I heard a flight of two 505’s on 126.7 going into Chapleau for fuel early this last week while I was heading up North. Think they were heading to Mirabel from Baker Lake.Cold weather trials up there I think.
I’m in Thompson MB bird towing at the moment and there is a Bell 525 up here doing cold WX stuff at the airport -40c today!! That is one sweet aircraft. It’s flying off the same ramp as us.
I heard a flight of two 505’s on 126.7 going into Chapleau for fuel early this last week while I was heading up North. Think they were heading to Mirabel from Baker Lake.Cold weather trials up there I think.
I’m in Thompson MB bird towing at the moment and there is a Bell 525 up here doing cold WX stuff at the airport -40c today!! That is one sweet aircraft. It’s flying off the same ramp as us.
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If you get any info on wrapping please let me know. Regards Steve
I think it will be easier on the N but I may decide to put on G for some charter . I will check how Red Bull do theirs . My idea was to have a fun wrap scheme just for a few years and then sell it with effectively new paintwork....
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Japan Coast Gaurd just taken delivery of Bell 505 ,
cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-6Zo9kHg-U
cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-6Zo9kHg-U
Still think the skids are too small.
I wonder how those Japanese Coast Guard guys like flying around in a single-engine helicopter without floats? Baaaaah, modern turbine engines never quit! Right? Bell better come out with some popout floats for that thing quick!
Nigelh:
Aux tank? Probably a good idea, Nige old bean. I mean, what idiot designed that thing with a thirsty French engine and only 85 gallons of fuel?? Jeez-Louise, 85 gallons, LOL. Even a 206B-III had more fuel than that and they only burn 26 gph.
Bell claims that at sea level the 505 has a no-reserve range of 299 miles at a "long range cruise" of 112 knots. This implies that they believe the fuel consumption of the Arrius to be...(drumroll)...31.5 gph. Damn, that's a lot of gas being sucked through at "long-range cruise." Hate to have to pull it up to MCP! (Something tells me Bell wasn't originally planning on using the Arrius but was forced into it for some reason.)
Okay, what if we want to land *with* some reserve...say a half-hour? 15 gallons. That leaves us with only 70 gallons to play with, which is a little over two hours at 112 knots. Granted, most light helicopter trips are less than 125 miles. But man, this 505 does not carry a whole lot of fuel!
So...where are they going to put the aux tank...in the baggage compartment? Hey, why not, LOL. Or maybe they can stick little sponsons on the sides...like a miniature 222! HAHAHAHAH. Whatever, just gimme another 30 gallons, please? Pretty please?
I'll tell you, man, those Bell engineers have to really be scratching their heads and sharpening their pencils...err, styluses. An autopilot will add weight, an aux fuel tank will add weight. Beefing up the underbelly structure and landing gear is going to add weight! I'll bet they'll be applying for a MGW increase pretty soon. Or...maybe not. That would probably mean beefing up the fuselage structure and landing gear even more. 'Round and 'round we go!
If they don't already, Bell will eventually rue the day they brought this turkey of a helicopter to the market. Good thing it's a strikingly good-looking bird! Well...maybe it will be when they get those damn landing gear skids extended.
Nigelh:
I hear there will be autopilot and aux tanks next year as well which I will retrofit.
Bell claims that at sea level the 505 has a no-reserve range of 299 miles at a "long range cruise" of 112 knots. This implies that they believe the fuel consumption of the Arrius to be...(drumroll)...31.5 gph. Damn, that's a lot of gas being sucked through at "long-range cruise." Hate to have to pull it up to MCP! (Something tells me Bell wasn't originally planning on using the Arrius but was forced into it for some reason.)
Okay, what if we want to land *with* some reserve...say a half-hour? 15 gallons. That leaves us with only 70 gallons to play with, which is a little over two hours at 112 knots. Granted, most light helicopter trips are less than 125 miles. But man, this 505 does not carry a whole lot of fuel!
So...where are they going to put the aux tank...in the baggage compartment? Hey, why not, LOL. Or maybe they can stick little sponsons on the sides...like a miniature 222! HAHAHAHAH. Whatever, just gimme another 30 gallons, please? Pretty please?
I'll tell you, man, those Bell engineers have to really be scratching their heads and sharpening their pencils...err, styluses. An autopilot will add weight, an aux fuel tank will add weight. Beefing up the underbelly structure and landing gear is going to add weight! I'll bet they'll be applying for a MGW increase pretty soon. Or...maybe not. That would probably mean beefing up the fuselage structure and landing gear even more. 'Round and 'round we go!
If they don't already, Bell will eventually rue the day they brought this turkey of a helicopter to the market. Good thing it's a strikingly good-looking bird! Well...maybe it will be when they get those damn landing gear skids extended.
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If you want to PM me, I’d be happy to chat with you about what we have done. If nothing else, would be great to have a look at your new toy when it arrives.
FF
Will do Flimsy ... thanks .
FH1100 .... you really do lead with your chin don’t you 🙈. You have been proved wrong on everything you have predicted .... does that stop you continuing with your drivel ? No of course not !!! I can only guess that you are a failed designer who was ( probably correctly) sacked by Bell !!
( and you still haven’t eaten your hat from your last predictions ...)
As for a Turkey , I bet most manufacturers would love a turkey that is selling as well as this one !!
FH1100 .... you really do lead with your chin don’t you 🙈. You have been proved wrong on everything you have predicted .... does that stop you continuing with your drivel ? No of course not !!! I can only guess that you are a failed designer who was ( probably correctly) sacked by Bell !!
( and you still haven’t eaten your hat from your last predictions ...)
As for a Turkey , I bet most manufacturers would love a turkey that is selling as well as this one !!
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Ha ha !!! I think FH1100 is a dinosaur just like his name 🤔
He has slagged off the 505 from the start saying it would do 115 knots max , would need winglets and finished by pronouncing it would definitely never ever be built !!!
Here we are now with deliveries and a proven 125-128! knots and rave reviews ! I agree that the skids look too short but the ones coming out now have longer ones . I agree an aux tank would be nice but one will be available very soon ..... the MD500 has aux tanks but does FH make a fuss about that ??? He is a very disgruntled old man .....and still has not accepted he was wrong and eaten his hat as promised!!
He has slagged off the 505 from the start saying it would do 115 knots max , would need winglets and finished by pronouncing it would definitely never ever be built !!!
Here we are now with deliveries and a proven 125-128! knots and rave reviews ! I agree that the skids look too short but the ones coming out now have longer ones . I agree an aux tank would be nice but one will be available very soon ..... the MD500 has aux tanks but does FH make a fuss about that ??? He is a very disgruntled old man .....and still has not accepted he was wrong and eaten his hat as promised!!
I apologize if there was an opening spot in an open forum when some old codger died and got buried in the helicopter heavens. I hope you understand the dynamics of forums and realise people come and people go and not every tidbit of information is first hand knowledge to everyone.
I wonder how those Japanese Coast Guard guys like flying around in a single-engine helicopter without floats? Baaaaah, modern turbine engines never quit! Right? Bell better come out with some popout floats for that thing quick!
Nigelh:
Aux tank? Probably a good idea, Nige old bean. I mean, what idiot designed that thing with a thirsty French engine and only 85 gallons of fuel?? Jeez-Louise, 85 gallons, LOL. Even a 206B-III had more fuel than that and they only burn 26 gph.
Bell claims that at sea level the 505 has a no-reserve range of 299 miles at a "long range cruise" of 112 knots. This implies that they believe the fuel consumption of the Arrius to be...(drumroll)...31.5 gph. Damn, that's a lot of gas being sucked through at "long-range cruise." Hate to have to pull it up to MCP! (Something tells me Bell wasn't originally planning on using the Arrius but was forced into it for some reason.)
Okay, what if we want to land *with* some reserve...say a half-hour? 15 gallons. That leaves us with only 70 gallons to play with, which is a little over two hours at 112 knots. Granted, most light helicopter trips are less than 125 miles. But man, this 505 does not carry a whole lot of fuel!
So...where are they going to put the aux tank...in the baggage compartment? Hey, why not, LOL. Or maybe they can stick little sponsons on the sides...like a miniature 222! HAHAHAHAH. Whatever, just gimme another 30 gallons, please? Pretty please?
I'll tell you, man, those Bell engineers have to really be scratching their heads and sharpening their pencils...err, styluses. An autopilot will add weight, an aux fuel tank will add weight. Beefing up the underbelly structure and landing gear is going to add weight! I'll bet they'll be applying for a MGW increase pretty soon. Or...maybe not. That would probably mean beefing up the fuselage structure and landing gear even more. 'Round and 'round we go!
If they don't already, Bell will eventually rue the day they brought this turkey of a helicopter to the market. Good thing it's a strikingly good-looking bird! Well...maybe it will be when they get those damn landing gear skids extended.
Nigelh:
Aux tank? Probably a good idea, Nige old bean. I mean, what idiot designed that thing with a thirsty French engine and only 85 gallons of fuel?? Jeez-Louise, 85 gallons, LOL. Even a 206B-III had more fuel than that and they only burn 26 gph.
Bell claims that at sea level the 505 has a no-reserve range of 299 miles at a "long range cruise" of 112 knots. This implies that they believe the fuel consumption of the Arrius to be...(drumroll)...31.5 gph. Damn, that's a lot of gas being sucked through at "long-range cruise." Hate to have to pull it up to MCP! (Something tells me Bell wasn't originally planning on using the Arrius but was forced into it for some reason.)
Okay, what if we want to land *with* some reserve...say a half-hour? 15 gallons. That leaves us with only 70 gallons to play with, which is a little over two hours at 112 knots. Granted, most light helicopter trips are less than 125 miles. But man, this 505 does not carry a whole lot of fuel!
So...where are they going to put the aux tank...in the baggage compartment? Hey, why not, LOL. Or maybe they can stick little sponsons on the sides...like a miniature 222! HAHAHAHAH. Whatever, just gimme another 30 gallons, please? Pretty please?
I'll tell you, man, those Bell engineers have to really be scratching their heads and sharpening their pencils...err, styluses. An autopilot will add weight, an aux fuel tank will add weight. Beefing up the underbelly structure and landing gear is going to add weight! I'll bet they'll be applying for a MGW increase pretty soon. Or...maybe not. That would probably mean beefing up the fuselage structure and landing gear even more. 'Round and 'round we go!
If they don't already, Bell will eventually rue the day they brought this turkey of a helicopter to the market. Good thing it's a strikingly good-looking bird! Well...maybe it will be when they get those damn landing gear skids extended.
cheers