Bell 505 Jet Ranger X
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Not sure how reliable this is ..... here is a quote from the article ....
Link to the article (poor translation) https://dailyactive.info/2019/03/06/...icopter-crash/
Not sure how reliable this is ..... here is a quote from the article ....
Link to the article (poor translation) https://dailyactive.info/2019/03/06/...icopter-crash/
I'm not sure how reliable that you are. You have managed to link to an article about another crash (a Squirrel in Africa).
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EDIT TO ADD ..... sheesh , it was the post by vaqueroaero that was to the wrong crash , the link I used was for a 505 .... so only one 505 crash ???? now I am getting confused .... haaa
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NTSB Identification: WPR19WA164 https://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.a...19WA164&akey=1
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Right you are Bravo73 .... thanks .... even though it was a foreign accident the NSTB usually has some mention of it , so I looked , found one , used the reg number to source the article I posted without checking . I was under the impression there was only 1 505 incident .... turns out there have been 2 .
EDIT TO ADD ..... sheesh , it was the post by vaqueroaero that was to the wrong crash , the link I used was for a 505 .... so only one 505 crash ???? now I am getting confused .... haaa
EDIT TO ADD ..... sheesh , it was the post by vaqueroaero that was to the wrong crash , the link I used was for a 505 .... so only one 505 crash ???? now I am getting confused .... haaa
The usually-reliable Rotorspot website reports that of the 307 production ships out there, three were written-off: MSNs 37, 74 and 125) and six have had their registrations cancelled for some reason: MSN's 24, 79, 185, 223, 224, and 266. (MSN 65002 was also cancelled, but that appears to be pre-production - maybe a flight test ship.) No idea what might cause a relatively new ship like the 505 to have its rego cancelled.
FYI: According to ASN there have been 5 accident with 2 fatal. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/type/B505
One cause is the aircraft is exported but hasn't re-registered yet.
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No idea what might cause a relatively new ship like the 505 to have its rego cancelled
FYI: According to ASN there have been 5 accident with 2 fatal. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/type/B505
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After attending Heli Expo back in January went to visit LAFD Air Ops at Van Nuys and saw N505CY again from two days ago as the fire dept evaluating it and an Airbus H125 as their Bell 206 replacement.
(my photos below from Anaheim and Van Nuys)
(my photos below from Anaheim and Van Nuys)
Montenegro
Montenegro MoD going to purchase pair of Bell 505 for around 3.2 million Euros
As last year F-HJRX (first French Bell 505 - my photos from Helitech 2018) went to Montenegro to be evaluated with the Montenegro armed forces.
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As last year F-HJRX (first French Bell 505 - my photos from Helitech 2018) went to Montenegro to be evaluated with the Montenegro armed forces.
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Curious to know if anyone has had any experience on both the EC120 and the Bell 505? It seems that a REALLY nice EC120 will go for a similar price to a pre-owned 505. Most of the 505's for sale are low time. I am surprised though at how many 505's are for sale (controller as 18 listings) vs the EC120 (23 listings). I would have expected the EC120 to have far more for sale as compared with the 505 because it is a newer aircraft, the fleet size is roughly half of the EC120. Is that any indication that folks aren't happy with the 505?
On paper, the 505 seems like a good deal: FADEC, G1000, can get HeliSAS (same with EC120 but you also need to spring for G500 when the 505 already has G1000), smaller footprint for storage. Similar useful load to the EC120, but probably better if comparing apples to apples and having to install glass into the EC120.
I do like the range of the EC120, especially given my use as a private flying. For both machines, I'd usually be able to go full fuel as there would only be 1-2 on board with limited baggage. One of the concerns reading through this thread is that I might not be able to go full fuel with just myself on board when trying to do a longer trip due to CG limitations. I am not sure exactly how that would shake out on the EC120 though. Baggage on the EC120 also seems larger than the 505 too which is important to me for family trips.
I guess I'm a bit torn, the EC120 might fit me better from a utility standpoint (large storage and long range), but I like the modern-ness of the 505 (glass & FADEC). It is also appealing that the 505 is in production so parts and service are probably (hopefully) better than on the EC120. You can also get a lower time 505 which might mean less surprises.
Final questions, for now...does anyone know if the engine monitoring system logs the full history? One of the concerns on the EC120 is that the VEMD only records the last 30 flights so if there was an unfaithful actor, an overtorque or overtemp could be concealed. Can that be done on the 505 or does the history stay forever?
Apologies for multiple posts/threads on the EC120 and 505, I should have combined my earlier post on 505 maintenance with this one.
On paper, the 505 seems like a good deal: FADEC, G1000, can get HeliSAS (same with EC120 but you also need to spring for G500 when the 505 already has G1000), smaller footprint for storage. Similar useful load to the EC120, but probably better if comparing apples to apples and having to install glass into the EC120.
I do like the range of the EC120, especially given my use as a private flying. For both machines, I'd usually be able to go full fuel as there would only be 1-2 on board with limited baggage. One of the concerns reading through this thread is that I might not be able to go full fuel with just myself on board when trying to do a longer trip due to CG limitations. I am not sure exactly how that would shake out on the EC120 though. Baggage on the EC120 also seems larger than the 505 too which is important to me for family trips.
I guess I'm a bit torn, the EC120 might fit me better from a utility standpoint (large storage and long range), but I like the modern-ness of the 505 (glass & FADEC). It is also appealing that the 505 is in production so parts and service are probably (hopefully) better than on the EC120. You can also get a lower time 505 which might mean less surprises.
Final questions, for now...does anyone know if the engine monitoring system logs the full history? One of the concerns on the EC120 is that the VEMD only records the last 30 flights so if there was an unfaithful actor, an overtorque or overtemp could be concealed. Can that be done on the 505 or does the history stay forever?
Apologies for multiple posts/threads on the EC120 and 505, I should have combined my earlier post on 505 maintenance with this one.
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I have recently purchased a EC120 after looking at both EC120, 505, and even considered a AS350. A friend of mine flies a 505, and is a nice modern machine, however I would say that in all my research I found that REALLY nice EC120's are selling for about 2/3 the price of pre-owned 505s. In my research I also found a pretty reasonable availability of spares mostly impacted by freight/shipping due to Covid.
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One thing I have learned is that the 505 does not have any calendar items other than TT straps every 4 yrs). Is that correct? This is a major $$ saver as I'm hearing this 12yr inspections on the EC120 are quite expensive (a few instances of over $200k). The link provided in the Bell 505 maintenace thread appears to contradict this (sorry I can't posts links until 10 total posts lol)? Seems there are a few 1, 2, 3 and 6 yr inspections.
A side note/comment reading the link in Bell 505 maintenance thread is this RIN concept. I guess it is like cycles/landings. I haven't dug into machines in this depth before as a new pilot so find this interesting more than anything. Auto's are very punitive for some components. Practically, how does this get tracked? If I were doing recurrent training in the machine, I suppose I need to keep a record and report to my maintenance folks?
A side note/comment reading the link in Bell 505 maintenance thread is this RIN concept. I guess it is like cycles/landings. I haven't dug into machines in this depth before as a new pilot so find this interesting more than anything. Auto's are very punitive for some components. Practically, how does this get tracked? If I were doing recurrent training in the machine, I suppose I need to keep a record and report to my maintenance folks?
Heli-Alps accident
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translate =A spectacular helicopter crash stirred up Sion airport on Wednesday morning. According to elements collected on the spot, it seems that a student pilot of the Sion helicopter group hit another heli-Alpes SA aircraft that was parked on the ground, while he was trying to put down his school helicopter.
Two minor injuries
Two minor injuries
Military Bell 505
Montenegro Bell 505 already delivered
https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/19...first-bell-505
and now Jamaica Defense Force Air Wing getting six
https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/19...-defence-force
https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/19...first-bell-505
and now Jamaica Defense Force Air Wing getting six
https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/19...-defence-force
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An FYI for 505 operators, we had a successful pull test at Bell Fort Worth for our new side mount. Flight test will be in early June. Expect the FAA STC late summer with EASA approval shortly there after.
Cal
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300th delivered this time to Jamaica Defense Force Air Wing
300th airframe delivered as the Jamaica Defense Force Air Wing being the latest recipient
https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/19...5-jet-ranger-x
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https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/19...5-jet-ranger-x
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