CHC Probs With UK SAR 92's Leaving For Irish SAR?
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S-92 on LongSAR
Looking at AIS, it would appear the S-92 from Shannon is on a LongSAR shout way down in the Celtic Sea. Is R193 off-line? or is this within the Irish CG's AOR? Must be right on the edge of it's Op radius, it looks a long way (150NMish South of Irish coast) hope they've got the CASA for company
Ed,
Just noticed that myself on the AIS. She's well out to sea. There is an Oil Rig to the South West they use to refuel the aircraft on long SAR missions South!
Just noticed that myself on the AIS. She's well out to sea. There is an Oil Rig to the South West they use to refuel the aircraft on long SAR missions South!
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More details from the Irish Coast Guards FB page:
Irish Coast Guard
39 minutes ago near Clane, Kildare
On going mission off the west coast. Single handed yachtsman in urgent need of Medevac after being injured in heavy swell. So far unable to locate the yacht but have an approx area. Tasking given to rescue 115 at 0630UTC as she was completing transfer of a pilot onboard a ship trying to enter the Shannon (weather too rough to transfer pilot by boat). Rescue 115 accepts tasking and routes to Cork for fuel. Currently Rescue 115 en route to the area 200 kilometers south of Mizen. ETA 1030 UTC for winch ops. Best of luck to the crew.
Irish Coast Guard
39 minutes ago near Clane, Kildare
On going mission off the west coast. Single handed yachtsman in urgent need of Medevac after being injured in heavy swell. So far unable to locate the yacht but have an approx area. Tasking given to rescue 115 at 0630UTC as she was completing transfer of a pilot onboard a ship trying to enter the Shannon (weather too rough to transfer pilot by boat). Rescue 115 accepts tasking and routes to Cork for fuel. Currently Rescue 115 en route to the area 200 kilometers south of Mizen. ETA 1030 UTC for winch ops. Best of luck to the crew.
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Lovely HD, very insightful!
To even the most casual observer it seems that CHC are cutting things extremely tight. The ITAR mess has delayed the introduction of the Sligo 92 by about 2 weeks but the start date appears to have stayed the same. Net result is 2 weeks less build up training for the Sligo crews. Are corners being cut?
Also, I see the work on the Dublin hangar has started. They'll be working around the clock to get that finished by December, never mind for when their 92 arrives.
I refuse to believe that the Irish Coast Guard are not penalising CHC for not having Waterford and Dublin operational. It should be easy enough to find out though. An FOI request or a Dàil question should get the required info.
To even the most casual observer it seems that CHC are cutting things extremely tight. The ITAR mess has delayed the introduction of the Sligo 92 by about 2 weeks but the start date appears to have stayed the same. Net result is 2 weeks less build up training for the Sligo crews. Are corners being cut?
Also, I see the work on the Dublin hangar has started. They'll be working around the clock to get that finished by December, never mind for when their 92 arrives.
I refuse to believe that the Irish Coast Guard are not penalising CHC for not having Waterford and Dublin operational. It should be easy enough to find out though. An FOI request or a Dàil question should get the required info.
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So tell me comforteater:
1. What was the original plan prior to ITAR? Oh wait that was a 2 week run up starting on the 18th. And post ITAR please share with everybody what is happening?
2. Ref Dublin hangar, you seem very interested in this, which TBH Im not very surprised at, but are you suggesting that the operation cannot be conducted from the current facilities?? God forbid your wouldn't have an aircraft wash area!!!!!!!
3. Refuse to believe all you want. Your wrong and your persistence just proves your lack of knowledge .
1. What was the original plan prior to ITAR? Oh wait that was a 2 week run up starting on the 18th. And post ITAR please share with everybody what is happening?
2. Ref Dublin hangar, you seem very interested in this, which TBH Im not very surprised at, but are you suggesting that the operation cannot be conducted from the current facilities?? God forbid your wouldn't have an aircraft wash area!!!!!!!
3. Refuse to believe all you want. Your wrong and your persistence just proves your lack of knowledge .
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Irishsarboy,
Ill give you evens unless your based with MTB and CE in which case ill give you 50/1 that they wont make end 12/13 (replaced by Irish Air Corps) and/or 100/1 that their base is taken over by aliens prior to 12/13. (Payment only viable if aliens wash aircraft).
Ill give you evens unless your based with MTB and CE in which case ill give you 50/1 that they wont make end 12/13 (replaced by Irish Air Corps) and/or 100/1 that their base is taken over by aliens prior to 12/13. (Payment only viable if aliens wash aircraft).
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Wow, Hiduly Damper!!!
You slag off what you perceive are other people's "lack of knowledge", and then talk about CHC not being penalised, the IAC providing a SAR service and aliens washing aircraft!! Sure what else would you be doing in the wee hours of Saturday morning?
You slag off what you perceive are other people's "lack of knowledge", and then talk about CHC not being penalised, the IAC providing a SAR service and aliens washing aircraft!! Sure what else would you be doing in the wee hours of Saturday morning?
mtb - you come across as logical but opinionated and optimistic - traits of the inexperinced; Comforteater comes across as logical but realistic. I’ll bet he is your older wiser self, Luke
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Instead of playing the players play the ball.
Are there any takers who can counter what MB has posted.... He seems to have done his homework with concrete info. HD, The helo wash area has gone over my head, what's that about.
Is the quote from the IRCG director supplied my MB correct or not ?
Are there any takers who can counter what MB has posted.... He seems to have done his homework with concrete info. HD, The helo wash area has gone over my head, what's that about.Is the quote from the IRCG director supplied my MB correct or not ?
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As a outsiders point of view MTB seems to know what he/she is talking about. There have been a few false starts with UK SAR the biggest one obviously was SAR H. That is the past and Bristow's seem to being doing it right from the starter blocks with spend on infrastructure, people and aircraft. I would suggest the least of your worries in Ireland are having aircraft washers and wash bays. Pink P is correct, play the ball not the person on the forum. The later looses you the argument What is FOI?
What is FOI?
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MTB,
I'm sorry you have wasted your time posting such a great post but a few counters.
1. The tender wasn't in compliance with the Irish Coastguard tender as it was a non compliant tender which was available to all tenderers To provide alternate solutions provided it was accompanied by a compliant tender (which wasn't selected). For example a fully compliant tender required 5 new aircraft.
2. What was in the public tender, the tender by CHC and the CONTRACT post CHC selection are all different so basing your thoughts on the public tender is flawed. Sorry but there are no penalties in the contract until Jan 1st 2014.
3. The transition plan prior to the ITAR issue, which you said was a last minute issue, also bears to resemblance to the transition plan you alluded to which was about 2 years old, primarily because of the release of the aircraft as you pointed out. However, has the up to date transition plan changed due to the short delay caused by the ITAR issue, which is what this is all about? No. As I said before, only a significant event to those who want to ham it up.
I'm sorry you have wasted your time posting such a great post but a few counters.
1. The tender wasn't in compliance with the Irish Coastguard tender as it was a non compliant tender which was available to all tenderers To provide alternate solutions provided it was accompanied by a compliant tender (which wasn't selected). For example a fully compliant tender required 5 new aircraft.
2. What was in the public tender, the tender by CHC and the CONTRACT post CHC selection are all different so basing your thoughts on the public tender is flawed. Sorry but there are no penalties in the contract until Jan 1st 2014.
3. The transition plan prior to the ITAR issue, which you said was a last minute issue, also bears to resemblance to the transition plan you alluded to which was about 2 years old, primarily because of the release of the aircraft as you pointed out. However, has the up to date transition plan changed due to the short delay caused by the ITAR issue, which is what this is all about? No. As I said before, only a significant event to those who want to ham it up.
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