UK SAR 2013 privatisation: the new thread
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Given the upcoming election and almost certain further squeeze on government department's budgets perhaps something along the lines of "Have you discussed plans for cost recovery in relation to SAR helicopter tasking and, if so, what recipients of the service are likely to be targeted? "
Given the upcoming election and almost certain further squeeze on government department's budgets perhaps something along the lines of "Have you discussed plans for cost recovery in relation to SAR helicopter tasking and, if so, what recipients of the service are likely to be targeted? "
Interesting. A very tiny dent in the cost of twenty 8/12 tonne 4000/5000shp helicopters with a crew of four could be made with a difficult-to-collect couple of million pounds but billions were saved by dropping the PFI and letting this contract.
Was there a particular format of political suicide that you thought might attract our legislators and their agency?
Scenario 1
We cannot transfer your premature infant to the correct unit hundreds of miles away by air because neither your household insurance nor your private health plan cover the cost.
Scenario 2
Please text your insurance certificate number to the following HMCG number before using this coastal path/beach.
Scenario 3
Our database shows that your NFU membership has lapsed and therefore your chest and head injuries will have to wait until MRT are mobilised to your location.
More importantly it is a public forum where people are free to express their opinions, if they upset you so much why are you here!!?
I am quite sure that if I choose to visit these pages again some time in the future then the same sad few will still be complaining about something regardless.
Meanwhile those of us who are actually doing the job will continue to enjoy the most rewarding career in aviation.
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Cost Recovery
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I’m not trying to compare the previous (aborted) contract with current one. Personally I didn’t and don’t see either as a PFI.I’m quite comfortable with Bristow operating the service on behalf of DfT and MCA and am confident they will do a very professional job and provide value for money for beleaguered taxpayers.
Previous SAR helicopter contracts to HMCG involved a fixed amount for the period of the contract with additional payments paid by HMCG to the contractor per mission to cover fuel, operating costs etc.Does the UK SAR (2015 onward) contract have the same arrangement?Get me an answer to this and I may expand further.
I’ll get back to you on scenarios 2 and 3 but as regards scenario 1 that is already covered and has been for many years i.e. the responsibility for premature infants lies with the NHS.Other categories are covered such as hospital to hospital transfers including ECMO. Requests for SAR helicopter assistance in this area is subject to certain criteria – one of which is whether the requesting authority – ambulance control and exceptionally a hospital - is prepared to cover costs. This currently applies to HMCG contract, RAF and RN SAR helicopters.Costs are recovered from the requesting authority – not mum and dad, household insurance or private health plan.
I’m not trying to compare the previous (aborted) contract with current one. Personally I didn’t and don’t see either as a PFI.I’m quite comfortable with Bristow operating the service on behalf of DfT and MCA and am confident they will do a very professional job and provide value for money for beleaguered taxpayers.
Previous SAR helicopter contracts to HMCG involved a fixed amount for the period of the contract with additional payments paid by HMCG to the contractor per mission to cover fuel, operating costs etc.Does the UK SAR (2015 onward) contract have the same arrangement?Get me an answer to this and I may expand further.
I’ll get back to you on scenarios 2 and 3 but as regards scenario 1 that is already covered and has been for many years i.e. the responsibility for premature infants lies with the NHS.Other categories are covered such as hospital to hospital transfers including ECMO. Requests for SAR helicopter assistance in this area is subject to certain criteria – one of which is whether the requesting authority – ambulance control and exceptionally a hospital - is prepared to cover costs. This currently applies to HMCG contract, RAF and RN SAR helicopters.Costs are recovered from the requesting authority – not mum and dad, household insurance or private health plan.
Last edited by Bluenose 50; 15th Apr 2015 at 21:22. Reason: Corrn - household replaced heath
This lot may help.
CONTRACT ON BUSINESS LINK
Pull down the Tender Documents menu to access contract documents with redactions.
Pricing Schedule is at Schedule 7.5.
Schedule 7.5
I cannot say I have looked at 7.5 thoroughly. I have concerned myself chiefly with Specification: Schedule 2.1.
CONTRACT ON BUSINESS LINK
Pull down the Tender Documents menu to access contract documents with redactions.
Pricing Schedule is at Schedule 7.5.
Schedule 7.5
I cannot say I have looked at 7.5 thoroughly. I have concerned myself chiefly with Specification: Schedule 2.1.
K 4.2.2.1.3 The Avionics Suite must
enable Aircrew to conduct aided visual
searches in low light conditions down to
2 mlux.
848 K 4.2.2.1.4 The Aircrew must be able to
view any enhanced (through amplified
intensity) external low light images
seen when conducting the aided visual
searches in a monochrome display.
conducive to effective
searching include:
ergonomic seats,
comfortable clothes,
rotatable seats, radios
etc. positioned at search
stations, climate control
etc.
2mlux is taken to be a
near moonless clear
night without cultural
lighting.
Full NVG compatibility of
the avionics suite would
be a minimum prerequisite
to achieving this
capability.
For the purposes of this
requirement, an aided
visual search might
include the use of:Flares
External Lighting
This requirement could
be met through the use
of NVG.
Any aircraft internal
displays used to meet
this requirement e.g.
avionics and FLIR, must
be fully NVG compatible
and not detract from the
use of helmet mounted
NVG.
enable Aircrew to conduct aided visual
searches in low light conditions down to
2 mlux.
848 K 4.2.2.1.4 The Aircrew must be able to
view any enhanced (through amplified
intensity) external low light images
seen when conducting the aided visual
searches in a monochrome display.
conducive to effective
searching include:
ergonomic seats,
comfortable clothes,
rotatable seats, radios
etc. positioned at search
stations, climate control
etc.
2mlux is taken to be a
near moonless clear
night without cultural
lighting.
Full NVG compatibility of
the avionics suite would
be a minimum prerequisite
to achieving this
capability.
For the purposes of this
requirement, an aided
visual search might
include the use of:Flares
External Lighting
This requirement could
be met through the use
of NVG.
Any aircraft internal
displays used to meet
this requirement e.g.
avionics and FLIR, must
be fully NVG compatible
and not detract from the
use of helmet mounted
NVG.
Meanwhile those of us who are actually doing the job will continue to enjoy the most rewarding career in aviation.
FeD -
From Same Again;
Didn't take you too long. For 'some time in the future' read 'tomorrow'!
I am quite sure that if I choose to visit these pages again some time in the future then the same sad few will still be complaining about something regardless.
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I started to read the posts here last year as I naively thought that I might learn something from the wealth of experience that individuals might be willing to share. I was disappointed to discover otherwise - as are others I work with.
I am quite sure that if I choose to visit these pages again some time in the future then the same sad few will still be complaining about something regardless.
I am quite sure that if I choose to visit these pages again some time in the future then the same sad few will still be complaining about something regardless.
Sarcasm should never be confused with wit; you seem to have a disproportionate ratio within your posts
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