UK SAR 2013 privatisation: the new thread
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Nicer to have a radar equipped top cover with droppable life rafts etc. Also the Coast Guard 404 vanished from Inverness at a point, waiting on an aircraft on 2 hour standby to come from East Mids wasn't helpful. Hercules was requested but that was clearly too difficult and the proper MPA aircraft with full kit in Ireland was ruled out as being impossible to get.....
Oops, another rant.
Oops, another rant.
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Someone asked early on about the Falkland Islands SAR cover. Well, (now don't laugh...) but having fairly recently returned from our South Altlantic outpost, "word on the street" there is that the powers that be are looking at putting Puma down there. Now I told you not to laugh! I'm not a "rotary man" but I'd have thought the winds at MPC would not favour Puma Ops. Surely they'd topple over with the winds they get?
Another rumour is that BRINTEL don't expect to get their contract renewed when the current (extension) runs out. Purely a rumour but who would get it if they didn't? CHC? Who are currently at Stanley on Oil Charter work.
Another rumour is that BRINTEL don't expect to get their contract renewed when the current (extension) runs out. Purely a rumour but who would get it if they didn't? CHC? Who are currently at Stanley on Oil Charter work.
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Hey ewdardspannerhands check the Falklands helicopter support contract thread. Rumour there is BI have held onto the contract. However nothing confirmed yet from MOD contract section .
CHC? Who are currently at Stanley on Oil Charter work.
edwardspannerhand: read MoD's lips: MO MIL SAR...nada...nil...noooo.
Meantobe: BI continue with the contract (as advertised) until 2016.
Bristow: SAR analysis paper prepares for SAR ops on the Falklands post 2016 - 3 cabs. QED.
Rumour on the (mil) street is that the new contract for SAR UK is going to be called: "Future UK SAR."
Meantobe: BI continue with the contract (as advertised) until 2016.
Bristow: SAR analysis paper prepares for SAR ops on the Falklands post 2016 - 3 cabs. QED.
Rumour on the (mil) street is that the new contract for SAR UK is going to be called: "Future UK SAR."
but I'd have thought the winds at MPC would not favour Puma Ops. Surely they'd topple over with the winds they get?
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Thanks for the replies guys. like I said, they were just the rumours floating around on my recent visit. Good news if BRINTEL have secured a new contract - from what I saw they provided an excellent service. Safe Flying to all. ES.
Industry insider - if your figures are correct then 3.6 hours minus 30 mins IFR reserve equal 3.2 hours - multiply by 145 kts and you get 464 miles or a RoA of 232 nm without any time on scene unless your time on scene was the 30 mins but then you don't have any reserve.
232 RoA doesn't beat the Sea King - more poetic licence???
Pasptoo - what is the range speed that gives that fuel burn?
232 RoA doesn't beat the Sea King - more poetic licence???
Pasptoo - what is the range speed that gives that fuel burn?
Lala...
Industry insider did say "without Aux tank" and I did say 140-145 was not best range speed... So everyone was being honest. Best range speed is about 130KIAS. If you can get to a good alt then fuel burn will drop off a little more than what Paspatoo has said.
We almost managed a full page of grown up discussion. No poetic licence... Just facts.
Industry insider did say "without Aux tank" and I did say 140-145 was not best range speed... So everyone was being honest. Best range speed is about 130KIAS. If you can get to a good alt then fuel burn will drop off a little more than what Paspatoo has said.
We almost managed a full page of grown up discussion. No poetic licence... Just facts.
If there is an SK with a ROA greater than 200 nm then I don't think it has found its way onto the ARCC state board yet.
Does it matter? You draw a line on the chart, if whatever it is is beyond that line it has to sail within that line if it needs a helicopter. Twenty or thirty miles isn't going to make a lot of difference.
Does it matter? You draw a line on the chart, if whatever it is is beyond that line it has to sail within that line if it needs a helicopter. Twenty or thirty miles isn't going to make a lot of difference.
The S-92 standard capacity is around 5050lbs, maybe 5100lbs on a good day
A few question for those who operate the S92 with the Aux tank:-
1. How many survivors can you seat with the tank installed?
2. The S92 has I believe its fuel in the sidepods -for better crashworthyness, is the aux tank at the back of the cabin or under the floor. How does it affect its' crashworthyness?
Also can you use the windscreen wipers above 40kts which I believe was a limit on the earlier S92s?
HF
1. How many survivors can you seat with the tank installed?
2. The S92 has I believe its fuel in the sidepods -for better crashworthyness, is the aux tank at the back of the cabin or under the floor. How does it affect its' crashworthyness?
Also can you use the windscreen wipers above 40kts which I believe was a limit on the earlier S92s?
HF
You can use it to lay out the stretcher. So no space lost per se.
Jim671: don't be silly: ALL SeaKings have an ROA of 200Nm's ALL should be on your board.
Jim671: don't be silly: ALL SeaKings have an ROA of 200Nm's
ALL should be on your board.
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