UK SAR 2013 privatisation: the new thread
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HMCG is the new owner of all UK SAR helicopters with Bristow being the contracted operator on their behalf. The scheme you see on the AW189 above will be standard (as is already the case at Stornoway, Sumburgh, Lee and Portland) on the AW189 and S92 aircraft across all 10 UK SAR bases. Any logic to do with over water or land operations is not applicable.
I think you are getting the picture. I do not find it to be a pretty picture. Some assure me that it's OK because currently the old sailor's home is run by a carrier guy. I shall need some convincing.
ARCC maintain their current role.
What the future physical and organisational location of the ARCC will be is another question. Since it is currently in the hands of those who understand aeronautics, rescue and control, and is located in a community where the issues are widely understood, I am not a fan of change. If we were changing to the Norwegian JRCC model then change might be worthwhile but I don't think that's on the table or even within the intellectual range of those influencing this.
The Coastguard control the brand and are the customer. They are currently controlling information about the implementation of the new service. The level of control tends to be a matter for concern for SAR partner agencies who require reassurance about capability and the manner of collaborative working.
And, worryingly, these are the same guys who think less CG stations with a big centralised blob of a comms centre is the way forward - that didn't work very well for the Fire Service did it?
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In response to the above the ARCC will continue to serve its purpose with the RAF, however the plans are for the MCA, specifically HM Coastguard, to take over this function for civil search and rescue. The RAF will continue to coordinate the response into military search and rescue.
Therefor, the MCA will be responsible for tasking their own helicopters.
Therefor, the MCA will be responsible for tasking their own helicopters.
They have always been able to task their own helicopters locally but nationally it has been co-ordinated by the ARCCK - having one do civil and the other military is a complete nonsense.
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Cost effectiveness?
The RAF will continue to coordinate the response into military search and rescue.
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They have always been able to task their own helicopters locally but nationally it has been co-ordinated by the ARCCK - having one do civil and the other military is a complete nonsense.
Likewise with the CHC fir on the south coast, they take their taskings from ARCC now.
Ops normals are conducted through the ARCC on HF or Airwaves.
The CG assets were (for about the last 10 years) supposed to be tasked through the ARCCK but could self task within 30 nm of their CG MRCC and then advise the ARCCK.
The same happens with many mil units, the local CG give you a heads-up and then phone the ARCCK to get them to officially task you.
As Leopold says, there are so few military SAR jobs nowadays, it makes no sense to have separate tasking authorities.
The same happens with many mil units, the local CG give you a heads-up and then phone the ARCCK to get them to officially task you.
As Leopold says, there are so few military SAR jobs nowadays, it makes no sense to have separate tasking authorities.
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The CG assets were (for about the last 10 years) supposed to be tasked through the ARCCK but could self task within 30 nm of their CG MRCC and then advise the ARCCK.
They will only accept a tasking from ARCC. The scramble lines that the CG used to use stopped and was taken over by the ARCC.
My recollection, having been at ARCC on that day, is that CG independent tasking of their SAR aircraft, and Nimrod ops, ended on the same day. 31st March 2010.
Strange how TUPE seems to apply to those guys but not the military................
