Bristow Commercial Pilot Sponsorship NOW
I know it's not 'employment' - it's vocational training (like what I said earlier 
) which is also covered by the act.
) which is also covered by the act.
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I know the two lucky ones who did this sort of sponsored training a few years back. That was Bristow Australia though. They are both on the S-76 now...
With all the people who have payed all the training, including MEIR themselves, and who are now unemployed, I donīt understand why Bristow would throw their money at this kind of recruitment?
It would be insanely expensive for the company to do this for all new co-pilots!
Anyway, the test scores needed through out the program at Bristow is 80% vs 70% for those who are self sponsored. No money is provided at all, so students will have to pay for food, transport and whatever themselves.
It is obviously a good deal for sure, but I donīt understand the WHY!
With all the people who have payed all the training, including MEIR themselves, and who are now unemployed, I donīt understand why Bristow would throw their money at this kind of recruitment?
It would be insanely expensive for the company to do this for all new co-pilots!
Anyway, the test scores needed through out the program at Bristow is 80% vs 70% for those who are self sponsored. No money is provided at all, so students will have to pay for food, transport and whatever themselves.
It is obviously a good deal for sure, but I donīt understand the WHY!
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My bad, Whirls.
I only remembered BOLD text on the top. Then read through the gliding etc sections more closely. Yeah, I've done my training, too old and I would still qualify as British/UK national, ehrm, but that's of no use here.
I only remembered BOLD text on the top. Then read through the gliding etc sections more closely. Yeah, I've done my training, too old and I would still qualify as British/UK national, ehrm, but that's of no use here.
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Unfortunately, for those of you that already have helicopter ppl's, you may be considered overqualified. Teaching a student with a "clean sheet" is considered easier than trying to correct bad habits already learned.
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Required Qualifications!!!
And make sure you have Grade 'A' A- level passes in Maths and Science before you part with your 60 notes!
They apparently don't tell you that up front!
Trog
They apparently don't tell you that up front!
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I don't quite understand why Bristow would do this either. I would have thought that working hard and living cheap for years to save money, then give up everything you have to go back to student life, then give them 12-15 months of training and test + possibly a year as an instructor where they get to evaluate you quite thoroughly, should be enough to determine whether you are a suitable candidate or not.
But maybe that's just me...
But maybe that's just me...
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And make sure you have Grade 'A' A- level passes in Maths and Science before you part with your 60 notes!
They apparently don't tell you that up front!
Trog
They apparently don't tell you that up front!
Trog
Hey ho, I'll take a look at the A.L. FW scholarships.
As to why, consider what percentage of people who pay the money for a CPL(H) + IR come away without actually getting it. Could it perhaps be zero %?
Bristow has I think realised that selection on the criteria of ability to self-fund is not necessarily a good way to select its staff to take the company into the next generation, even though it is the cheapest option in the short term.
It is well worth paying a paltry Ģ100k or so to be pretty certain to get a top quality product at the end, with a life of say 40 years, as they did in the 70s, 80s and 90s. 100k/40 yrs = Ģ2500 per year, good value!
Edited to say that they will no doubt recoup some of that by means of "cadet pay scales".
Bristow has I think realised that selection on the criteria of ability to self-fund is not necessarily a good way to select its staff to take the company into the next generation, even though it is the cheapest option in the short term.
It is well worth paying a paltry Ģ100k or so to be pretty certain to get a top quality product at the end, with a life of say 40 years, as they did in the 70s, 80s and 90s. 100k/40 yrs = Ģ2500 per year, good value!
Edited to say that they will no doubt recoup some of that by means of "cadet pay scales".
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Just found that out myself! Not to happy to be honest. Just paid for the Air League membership (which granted isnt a great deal of money), but could have saved me from going ahead with the membership if we were to have known about the Grade A passes!
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andrew152 - I emailed them as i only have PPL-H and they replied saying that i'm overqualified, as their offering todo the NPPL(A) first id think you may get the same reply. But doesn't hurt to ask 
First and last time in my life I will ever be over qualified for anything.
If id spent my Ģ15k in the pub instead of getting a PPL id have been able to apply.....so spending all your money on beer is not necessarily a bad thing i've learned today
First and last time in my life I will ever be over qualified for anything.
If id spent my Ģ15k in the pub instead of getting a PPL id have been able to apply.....so spending all your money on beer is not necessarily a bad thing i've learned today
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Bristow Commercial Pilot Sponsorship NOW
Has anyone else paid for a Air League membership?
Just emailed them for a refund. Not happy, pretty hacked off to be perfectly honest.
Just emailed them for a refund. Not happy, pretty hacked off to be perfectly honest.
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Really? Beccles was a private base for British Airways Helicopters. Not surprised you didn't get a job with Bristow. Its a shame that they didn't send you 20 miles up the road to North Denes where Bristow were based.
ersa
Its not a joke. Bristow knows its selection criteria very well. Most of the ex Cadet pilots with Bristow are either still with Bristow in senior positions or with other organisations in senior positions. Bristow training has always been excellent and many people have benefitted as a result of their Bristow training.
Sorry if you don't make the cut.
Thank you for bringing back memories... went to Bristow Helicopters (in Beccles), in 1978 begging for a job but could not "afford" it then... Must say I had a very warm welcome there anyway. Good luck to all the applicants. Safe flying all. Al
ersa
Its not a joke. Bristow knows its selection criteria very well. Most of the ex Cadet pilots with Bristow are either still with Bristow in senior positions or with other organisations in senior positions. Bristow training has always been excellent and many people have benefitted as a result of their Bristow training.
Sorry if you don't make the cut.
Industry insider.....
Your right I won't make the cut being 39 years old.. But aye I'm not breaking the law either, there have been plenty of people leave flying schools and break in to the ifr world..... So don't start the argument about bristow flight training in a h300 around Florida is top notch either ....
There are far better places to learn than a big sausage factory... Grant you if you manage to break out and get back to the uk , now that's a different story..
If the air league were so concerned about the outlook of British flying , why do they do it on the cheap and send them to the states, talking about standards ifr in a h300 don't make laugh....
This thread is now about bristow potentially breaking the equality rules in the uk
Your right I won't make the cut being 39 years old.. But aye I'm not breaking the law either, there have been plenty of people leave flying schools and break in to the ifr world..... So don't start the argument about bristow flight training in a h300 around Florida is top notch either ....
There are far better places to learn than a big sausage factory... Grant you if you manage to break out and get back to the uk , now that's a different story..
If the air league were so concerned about the outlook of British flying , why do they do it on the cheap and send them to the states, talking about standards ifr in a h300 don't make laugh....
This thread is now about bristow potentially breaking the equality rules in the uk
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Looks like the number of applicants is thinning rapidly, which is good for those who meet the requirements.
The age discrimination thing is interesting. I am no lawyer but can't help thinking that employment law is not applicable because no job is being advertised. If you want to give something away for free, does age discrimination law apply? I wouldn't have thought so. I think it only applies to employment and the supply of services, and this is neither.
At our gliding club, we have special reduced membership rates for under 18s, and under 25s in full time education. Is that illegal and should we charge school kids the same as everyone else? Of course, people only tend to complain about age discrimination when they are outside the age range!
The age discrimination thing is interesting. I am no lawyer but can't help thinking that employment law is not applicable because no job is being advertised. If you want to give something away for free, does age discrimination law apply? I wouldn't have thought so. I think it only applies to employment and the supply of services, and this is neither.
At our gliding club, we have special reduced membership rates for under 18s, and under 25s in full time education. Is that illegal and should we charge school kids the same as everyone else? Of course, people only tend to complain about age discrimination when they are outside the age range!
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