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Old 4th Jul 2015, 16:24
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Love the ideology but.......
That is the ugliest piece of **** Bell has ever designed in modern times.
No wonder the UH1 has reigned for so long.
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Old 4th Jul 2015, 16:31
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I can't help but think of this when I see the 525 front end:

http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/sik_shadow.php
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Old 5th Jul 2015, 03:49
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whoknowsidon't, there are quite a number of S-92's on civil SAR around the world, so there is a market. And now the 189 is also entering into that market.
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Old 7th Jul 2015, 18:58
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The only way to judge the front end of a helicopter is to see how much external visibility it gives the crew. The 525's pilot seat shows scads of excellent visibility, with a wide field of view side, down and cross cockpit.
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Old 7th Jul 2015, 23:19
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noooby, are you talking about exclusive SAR helicopters or maybe regular offshore buses that are on call for SAR missions?
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Old 8th Jul 2015, 17:05
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Both. CHC, Cougar, Bristow. They all operate 92's either as dedicated SAR or as offshore with SAR provisions.

Of course they could always incorporate the 139 soft field fix of Slump Pads!
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Old 9th Jul 2015, 03:57
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Thanks For the Vision Nick!

Nick, Hope you had your own small celebration when the 525 flew. Bell would not be flying the first Fly-by-Wire commercial helicopter without your vision and faith in the engineers at Bell to make it happen. You made a big impact in your short stint at Bell.

Have fun,

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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 04:27
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From Flight International:

During flights, the GE Aviation CT7-powered helicopter has been taken to speeds of up to 162kt (300km/h), an altitude of 1,200ft and bank angles of 35°.
Not bad after 20 fh for a self funded FBW aircraft. The speed is near Vne and while the altitude looks low it is because they are operating out of a base at 3700 ft. Since 6K DA is a standard cert alt this fits into the test plan.

CTR: The 525 comes from the BA-609 and Bell 429 design teams, both before Nick.

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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 10:12
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Mea culpa, it's actually an altitude of 12,000ft. Somehow a zero got lopped off that figure.
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Old 24th Dec 2015, 18:29
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Ship 2 In The Air

From FG

Second Bell 525 takes flight

24 DECEMBER, 2015 BY: JAMES DREW WASHINGTON DC
Bell Helicopter’s second 525 flight test vehicle has lifted off in Amarillo, Texas, after completing a series of ground checks.

Supporting the development of the first commercial fly-by-wire helicopter, FTV-2 joins its orange sibling (registration N525TA) that conducted the maiden flight of the super-medium type in July.

The new aircraft, tail number N525BK, sports a blue paint scheme, and is pictured in hover on 23 December.

Bell 525 FTV-2 took flight on 23 December

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Old 24th Dec 2015, 19:28
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CTR, Nick's contribution to Bell is well regarded.

Is Sultan even known outside Bell?
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 15:42
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525 is apparently exceeding 200 kt in flight testing, as announced by Matt Hasik, Bell's executive vice president for Commercial Business at Heli Expo this morning.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 17:39
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???

If it has been flown at 162kts already and Sultan remarks that has been "near" VNE - how can it be flown in eccess of 200kts??

or is 40+ kts off "near" to VNE??
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 18:03
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Just because it can be flown at 200 knots, doesn't mean the Vne will be anywhere near that.

The 139 can fly well in excess of 167 knots, hell, it will climb at 100Pi and 167knots, but that is where the Vne is set. Partially due to bird strike limits on the plastic windshields.

Will be interesting to see where Bell set the Vne on the 525 after testing is completed.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 18:29
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This is the link to the flight.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...525ta/#8ebf997

For this flight ground speed was very close to CAS.

If memory serves the target VNE was around 165 knots. For cert you have to demonstrate 1.11 VNE. Once the ship was flown the drag was found to be less than the most pessimistic drag analysis so the higher speeds are now being considered.

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Old 6th Mar 2016, 12:15
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Heli Expo 2016 my photos of Flight Test Vehicle 2

Hi guys here are my photos of Flight Test Vehicle #2 at Louisville , KY. earlier in the week,

cheers













cheers
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Old 23rd Apr 2016, 16:55
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3rd prototype flew

3rd prototype flew (photo courtesy of Bell) today

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Old 25th Apr 2016, 13:12
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We commercial developers set Vne where it supports a cruise speed, not where things come to pieces at an engineering stress level. In fact, every limit is set that way - where the business plan is met, not where something is likely to break.
Why? Because we test to support safety and sales, not to make a nice research project.
That being said, anyone who knowingly violates a red line (thinking there is always plenty of margin) is in uncharted territory, and foolish in two ways: First, you endanger yourself and your pax and Second, you might be accruing damage so someone else down the line will suffer.

CTR, I have a lot of faith in the Bell 525 team, and in the basic design. Articulated head, canted tail rotor, FBW advanced controls, big spacious cabin, Garmin cockpit, massive pilot visibility, and a dozen other facets were decided while I was there, and I agree, it was a blast! I had always wanted a shark's teeth smile painted on the nose so it could bite its competition in the butt. I think it will make one heck of an impact on the market.
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 14:22
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we test to support safety and sales
No comment.
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Old 26th Apr 2016, 00:25
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I think it will make one heck of an impact on the market.
If there ever is a market again......
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