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Old 6th Jul 2011, 09:54
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Big spine...Touchee'..

Not bothering... I'm having fun..
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 12:20
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Thank you Aser for trying to point this thread back on the right path.
You always provide useful imformations thank you so much for this.
... nevertheless I keep seeing the horse dying thirsty but not drinking at all !!! May be he is looking for an Australocopter not waving hands but just jumping forward from A to B.... just beware of the vertical vibrations that, for sure, are in the Australian genes !
P.S. I never saw any Italian instructor in Agusta TA wearing cravats ... have you really ever been there ??????
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 13:00
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We are loosing the essence of this thread.... What about if someone share some opinions about the organizational skills of WS??
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 14:40
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I have to back up Epiphany on this one - his experience was exactly the same as mine except the TRI had 2 mobiles on the go. 'Pronto'?!

Important to note that my initial training was conducted at Vergiate on the helicopter. Sesto in the simulator is completely different. No cravats and usually a good level of instruction.
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 18:47
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It appears that the Training "Captain" was conducting operations under AW139 RFM Suppl. 12 Part L at a weight roughly 1500 lbs above max for the ambient OAT.

We can definitely blame that on the AW instructors and their cravats.
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 21:15
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Of course Tottigal as an AW instructor yourself you'd know all about that.

The fact that the pilot took off over max gross weight has been known for some time if you would care to read my previous posts. The pilot asserts that AW instructors did not show him training weight graphs. Malaysian horses need to be dragged to water and forced to drink.

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Old 19th Jul 2011, 11:38
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Just wondering what type of profile the three wise men were flying when they bumped the tail, that little bit of info is lacking I think?*
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Old 19th Jul 2011, 12:40
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Just wondering what type of profile the three wise men were flying when they bumped the tail, that little bit of info is lacking I think?
I 'gather' it was the back-up ground level helipad procedure. Back up and back down, in this case!
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Old 19th Jul 2011, 12:50
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Thanks for that info. So a back up profile, over weight with a reported aft c of g. Guess the three were not wise, dumb, **##s.
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