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Old 21st Aug 2011, 10:21
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Has anybody "in the know" heard who may be interested in taking over the ex-Sterling hangar at NWI?

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Old 21st Aug 2011, 19:26
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So any thoughts on the courts verdict, that was handed out on friday in Gama's favour?
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Old 25th Aug 2011, 09:19
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Does this link provide any food for thought? Perhaps the last half-dozen paragraphs?

Mann Aviation Group (Engineering) Ltd v Longmint Aviation Ltd & Anor [2011] EWHC 2238 (Ch) (19 August 2011)
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Old 25th Aug 2011, 09:59
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Paras 60-66 are an enlightening read on how business is conducted, on occasion, late in the evening in the Surrey countryside................ You couldn't make this up, could you - what does Whirls make of the situation?

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Old 25th Aug 2011, 12:06
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T'would seem that Napoleon was trashed at Waterloo.

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Old 25th Aug 2011, 12:30
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Makes for shocking reading. BBC really are a bunch of unprincipled ****s that deserve everything that is coming their way.
The business about evicting the security guard who had every right to be there beggars belief. I hope she is suing them for assault.
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Old 25th Aug 2011, 13:16
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Just had a quick read of the salient paragraphs but it looks like a document to be read with my feet up and a glass of fine Chablis!

I reckon there must be enough evidence there for the Administrators to prove fraudulent trading - let's hope they decide to go for it!

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Old 25th Aug 2011, 13:43
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Whirls, almost worthy of a John Grisham book Some of the goings on are unbelievable, the image of LC dragging a security guard is priceless. It also makes those emails from NC seem laughable, the report calls BH an honest witness and is not so complimentary of LC etc.

Great news for MAGE, how does this affect the remainder of the longmint companies.

Let's hope someone wants to take this further. Wouldn't it be shame to see BBCC evicted from Isfield.

Enjoy the Chablis

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Old 25th Aug 2011, 17:54
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The link provides some excellent reading and what makes it even more enjoyable is a nice fine Red Wine -whaddayareckon whirls? However, on a sober note, the paragraphs that refer to sums of loot [2.5 mil - pension fund??!!!!] which I think is the topic for the next round of legal jousting, begs the question 'where is it'? I reckon that the despots have sequestered it and it is since long gone. Perhaps Napoleon was trying to adjust the books so it showed that they [LMAG] were owed that sum by MAGE. I smell a rat and that rat has already been scalded.........the next episode should prove very entertaining. Those in the know [] have long suspected that there has been a transfer of monies/revenue/property between companies in the group in order to possibly evade such actions that now transpire. The methods of an asset stripper no doubt. However, there was always the chance that a paranoid Napoleonic character would cock it all up due to poor timing. Time will tell and those who deserve will be dealt with one way or another.

Better than corrie eh?


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Old 26th Aug 2011, 14:04
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According to the CAA's list of suspended organisations Alan Mann Helicopters has had its Part G suspended this week.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1204/20110...sSuspended.pdf
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Old 26th Aug 2011, 18:04
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12 o'clock,
Minor correction, AMH have had their Part M (Airworthiness) suspended. AMH as such never had a Part G approval, that was vested in the MAGE 'mess' in Building A17. It seems MAGE still have their Sub-part J and sub-part G (EASA Design & Manufacturing approvals respectively) still in place but I note further down the list that they have lost their DAI (CAA design) approval.

So maybe the whole issue is academic anyway? Ship is on the rocks of despair it seems to me - VFR
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Old 28th Aug 2011, 15:08
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The 'MAGE mess in A17' is not as bad as VFR440 would suggest. MAGE is actively trading under Gama's control and winning new work. In just a few weeks the new Gama company will be fully in place and MAGE will disappear.
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Old 28th Aug 2011, 17:25
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You don't know how VERY pleased I am to hear this and to be corrected. Hopefully some sort of normality will return to the Fairoaks debacle and we can move forward - VFR
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 20:28
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Back to Longmint status.....

Grapevine suggests court case winding up petition HMRC vs Longmint Group adjourned until 28 Nov.... wonder what the excuse was this time?
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 22:33
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One can only hope that the reason is to allow further time to unravel all the shady dealings and book keeping failures. Or perhaps something has come to light that warrants different action.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 15:24
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AA - or perhaps another ENRON situation, giving them time to cover their tracks?
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 19:41
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Credit where credit is due ( no pun intended), they have finally found something they are successful at.That must be about 12 different adjournments throughout this debacle !

It takes less time to do a thing right, than it does to explain why you did it wrong.

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Old 8th Sep 2011, 20:07
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Credit where credit is due ( no pun intended), they have finally found something they are successful at
Two things they're successful at...................

They're also masters at ruining companies and creating huge debts
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Old 9th Sep 2011, 09:12
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One could argue that they are quite successful, so far. They must know what they are doing to drive around in Aston Martins and live in that mansion in Isfield. They just don't care about any one else.So whats left? Sterling and MAGE are gone. Are AMH and FAST Helicopters next?Whatever happened to the Alan Mann Aviation Group? They seem experts in moving assests around. You must wonder whether the latest adjourment is another delaying tatic to keep ahead of the courts; that said I wouldn't want to mess with the HMRC.
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Old 9th Sep 2011, 21:01
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"So whats left? Sterling and MAGE are gone...."

But at least Gama have rescued the remnents of MAGE. Gama Engineering Ltd (GEL) will be fully trading with it's new 21G, Part M and 145 in the next couple of weeks. In the meantime, Gama keep MAGE in business and the staff paid until CAA complete process of granting the new approvals. Lees Avionics moved to Fairoaks today and will become GEL on Monday and bring with it a current Part 21J. It looks like Fairoaks will sonn be prospering again!
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