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AW139 CofG Spreadsheet
Does anybody have a cofg spreadsheet for a VIP 139. Looking for the usual info on how far the average corporate machine will go with various pax loads.
Many thanks
Bilbo
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Yes I had 2 dampers that were found below minimum torque spec at the eye end and thus were eligible for the mandatory FPI. Both passed FPI no problem and were reinstalled. Make sure you note this check in your CHR.
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AW139 CofG Spreadsheet
I don't think you will need a spreadsheet, with a 12 place Factory VIP SEI interior you can still fill the tank and be within limits. Most other VVIP interiors limit the number of seats so with fewer seats (6-7) on board so I do not see a problem in terms of range. Be aware some of the VIP interiors available are really nice and luxurious but come with a price in terms of added weight and reduced maintaince accessability. If your talking about a short nose with a aux fuel tank and a very heavy interior that is a different story, you will likely be aft C oF G with the aux fuel tank filled.
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139 CofG
Stupid question you ask.
Short nose ? long nose ? aux fuel tank ? which VIP config ? empty wheight ?
You can do CofG calculations in about 5 minutes with flight manual and a basic calculator, you don't need a spreadsheet for that.
Forget you computer and go back to basics, I have seen many pilots trusting blindly a spreasheet full of errors
Stupid question you ask.
Short nose ? long nose ? aux fuel tank ? which VIP config ? empty wheight ?
You can do CofG calculations in about 5 minutes with flight manual and a basic calculator, you don't need a spreadsheet for that.
Forget you computer and go back to basics, I have seen many pilots trusting blindly a spreasheet full of errors
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Thanks for your constructive opinion Froggy. Really helpful!
I don’t have a flight manual, therefore the easiest way to get 90% of the information I need is to use an existing spreadsheet and modify it for my requirements.
I could ask a hundred questions about seat stations, fuel tanks etc but actually what I was after was a very rough idea on loading and range of a typical Short nose, 8 seat config VIP 139. Simple really…
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I don’t have a flight manual, therefore the easiest way to get 90% of the information I need is to use an existing spreadsheet and modify it for my requirements.
I could ask a hundred questions about seat stations, fuel tanks etc but actually what I was after was a very rough idea on loading and range of a typical Short nose, 8 seat config VIP 139. Simple really…
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Ok, here is some help
The main problem is aft CG, I am flying a short nose with 12 or 15 seats offshore config,
For 2 pilots without passengers and cargo we are limited to 1150 kg of fuel to stay within limits on takeoff.
If you need some more figures, I will send you stations for pilots, front row,rear row, fuel and luggage
The main problem is aft CG, I am flying a short nose with 12 or 15 seats offshore config,
For 2 pilots without passengers and cargo we are limited to 1150 kg of fuel to stay within limits on takeoff.
If you need some more figures, I will send you stations for pilots, front row,rear row, fuel and luggage
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Froggy, the short nose that I fly also has 15 seats offshore config and can take 1500kg fuel for max. aft C of G with two pilots and nil pax/cargo. Quite a significant difference!
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copterdr76, aw139-engineer
Why, yes, my location here today found one damper, lost torque on jam nut--
removed from a/c, will inspect for damage to (both) threads, as per mfg--
installed new damper -- will need to investigate as to 'why' torque was lost--
found on daily insp, tech noted that barrel vs. rod end had vertical play --
removed from a/c, will inspect for damage to (both) threads, as per mfg--
installed new damper -- will need to investigate as to 'why' torque was lost--
found on daily insp, tech noted that barrel vs. rod end had vertical play --
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Is the report publicly available?
I'd really like to review the report to see how they deduced their findings before making further comments.
Anyone have a link to the report or prepared to send a copy by PM?
Regards
blakmax
Anyone have a link to the report or prepared to send a copy by PM?
Regards
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Update on results of TB 139-187 Rev A
Just an update. I had 4 of the 5 Dampers break at the minimum. Serial numbers 1601, 1602, 1605 and 1606. Serial number 1604 was OK. All 4 passed NDT, installed New Broached Ring and reinstalled.