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you seem to be misinformed as only two MD902,s are to be supplied by Un ited the other Aircraft are all supplied by Action Aviation
Three are currently in country being used for ops and Med training one further on the way next week 
you seem to be misinformed as only two MD902,s are to be supplied by Un ited the other Aircraft are all supplied by Action Aviation
Three are currently in country being used for ops and Med training one further on the way next week
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Interesting...is Action Aviation still an MD dealer? Rotorhub seemed to suggest last year that the dealership agreement announced in November '06 had been deep-sixed.
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Action Aviation no longer listed as distributors for MD Helicopters in Middle East, India and Scandinavia
Rotorhub 16 June 2008
The Rotorhub team have noted that Action Aviation are no longer listed on MD Helicopters' website as their distributor for the Middle East, the Indian Sub Continent and Scandinavia., less than twenty months after the manufacturer announced an eight-year contract with Action covering those territories.
We understand from industry sources that the two organisations are in dispute after MD significantly increased the price of all their products and reduced the Distributor commission structure without notice. This has obviously affected all MD Agents and Distributors worldwide, and follows Robinson's adjustment of their distributor discount as well.
Rotorhub 16 June 2008
The Rotorhub team have noted that Action Aviation are no longer listed on MD Helicopters' website as their distributor for the Middle East, the Indian Sub Continent and Scandinavia., less than twenty months after the manufacturer announced an eight-year contract with Action covering those territories.
We understand from industry sources that the two organisations are in dispute after MD significantly increased the price of all their products and reduced the Distributor commission structure without notice. This has obviously affected all MD Agents and Distributors worldwide, and follows Robinson's adjustment of their distributor discount as well.
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STVA - When I was chatting with Osama Ghazal from United that was what I was led to believe. 
I know Hamish had other helos there but thought they had come via United, obviously not.
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Ned
I know Hamish had other helos there but thought they had come via United, obviously not.
Cheers
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Whats the salary ?
Anyone know what the salary might be for a pilot with 5 yrs of EMS experience , 4000+ hrs and ATPL ( H ) .... Along with benefits .....??
Anyone ?
Anyone ?
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I think you need to send a message, with CV, to [email protected]
and then you can find out exactly what the deal is being offered.
Currently required:
FAA, IR HEMS experienced pilots.
Paramedics
MD902 and/or FAA A&P mechanics
SMS managers / Safety officers
Stores / Logistics staff
Quality manager - HEMS organisation experience
HR manager (ME experienced)
Travel office professional
The activity is Saudi based on 45-60 day rotations or resident.
The team there are out saving lives now on a regular basis.....and the program will be extended countrywide, from the initial Riyadh start up activity.
Other aircraft types (rotary and fixed) will be added to the mix as this grows.
and then you can find out exactly what the deal is being offered.
Currently required:
FAA, IR HEMS experienced pilots.
Paramedics
MD902 and/or FAA A&P mechanics
SMS managers / Safety officers
Stores / Logistics staff
Quality manager - HEMS organisation experience
HR manager (ME experienced)
Travel office professional
The activity is Saudi based on 45-60 day rotations or resident.
The team there are out saving lives now on a regular basis.....and the program will be extended countrywide, from the initial Riyadh start up activity.
Other aircraft types (rotary and fixed) will be added to the mix as this grows.
Don't know what MD902 is like as EMS machine ...
Would have thought EC135 too smal for that role ...
Would have thought they may have gone a Dauphin or something that has a bit more of a multi-role capability?
Would have thought EC135 too smal for that role ...
Would have thought they may have gone a Dauphin or something that has a bit more of a multi-role capability?
This program is mandated by HRH King Abdullah and it will continue in one form or another.
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Don't know what MD902 is like as EMS machine ...
Would have thought EC135 too smal for that role ...
Would have thought they may have gone a Dauphin or something that has a bit more of a multi-role capability?"
KP: I don't think multi-role is needed for this dedicated HEMS operation. The MD902 is actually a good multi-role machine but long distance legs she does not have. What it does have is great performance for the Middle East environment, low rotorwash for the off heliport environment, low maint required in the Middle East environment, multi-patient capability and acceptable range with a 100 mile out and back range when proprely configured for HEMS and fully crewed. The only real problem with the 902 is the supplier.
Bigger ships have some advantages and many dis-advantages in the Middle East, but the patients have to be in a favorable place for a bigger machine to land. I think a fleet of light twins (MD902) for local ops and a sensable fixed wing (PC-12 or maybe even a light jet) fleet for cross country transport would be a great mix in KSA.
Don't know what MD902 is like as EMS machine ...
Would have thought EC135 too smal for that role ...
Would have thought they may have gone a Dauphin or something that has a bit more of a multi-role capability?"
KP: I don't think multi-role is needed for this dedicated HEMS operation. The MD902 is actually a good multi-role machine but long distance legs she does not have. What it does have is great performance for the Middle East environment, low rotorwash for the off heliport environment, low maint required in the Middle East environment, multi-patient capability and acceptable range with a 100 mile out and back range when proprely configured for HEMS and fully crewed. The only real problem with the 902 is the supplier.
Bigger ships have some advantages and many dis-advantages in the Middle East, but the patients have to be in a favorable place for a bigger machine to land. I think a fleet of light twins (MD902) for local ops and a sensable fixed wing (PC-12 or maybe even a light jet) fleet for cross country transport would be a great mix in KSA.
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The problem is not the MD902, the real problem at KSA is that AA and SRCA didn’t pay the salaries of the dispatchers, paramedics, pilots and mechanics from March until everybody had enough of the lies and left KSA the first week of April.
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Copied over from The Dark Side:
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All,
Just a quick note to tell you all at one time--the gig is over! Action Aviation (UK company based out of Dubai FTZ) reneged on payroll for March, owes lots of money. The Saudi Red Crescent Authority (SRCA) is not going to pay Action not one red riyal more.
If you are waiting for a job with them, my advice, do not turn down any real job offers. You will be waiting a long time. Also, do not believe any of the BS the Chairman or his lackeys are spewing about they are owed money and all will be well in a couple of weeks. IT WILL NOT BE!
The Prince over the SRCA has issued a formal letter stating that Action will not be paid anymore money and as far as they are concerned Action Aviation broke/violated the contract.
2 MD 902s were evacuated out of Saudi prior to the whole thing falling apart. 2 remain in country. There were never more than 4 of which 3 were flyable at any time. The company tried some BS by putting a p.o.s. SJ30 on the contract along with an Airbus-318...all fell through.
Apparently, the SRCA is pursuing their own ops with old B412s and a couple of AW139s. I am sure they will be hiring in the future. I will just caution you to be extremely careful! It is not what it seems on the surface...SRCA has a history of changing contracts after you are in country. Most will leave, the hard-up will remain and sign on for a future of getting screwed.
Just a quick note to tell you all at one time--the gig is over! Action Aviation (UK company based out of Dubai FTZ) reneged on payroll for March, owes lots of money. The Saudi Red Crescent Authority (SRCA) is not going to pay Action not one red riyal more.
If you are waiting for a job with them, my advice, do not turn down any real job offers. You will be waiting a long time. Also, do not believe any of the BS the Chairman or his lackeys are spewing about they are owed money and all will be well in a couple of weeks. IT WILL NOT BE!
The Prince over the SRCA has issued a formal letter stating that Action will not be paid anymore money and as far as they are concerned Action Aviation broke/violated the contract.
2 MD 902s were evacuated out of Saudi prior to the whole thing falling apart. 2 remain in country. There were never more than 4 of which 3 were flyable at any time. The company tried some BS by putting a p.o.s. SJ30 on the contract along with an Airbus-318...all fell through.
Apparently, the SRCA is pursuing their own ops with old B412s and a couple of AW139s. I am sure they will be hiring in the future. I will just caution you to be extremely careful! It is not what it seems on the surface...SRCA has a history of changing contracts after you are in country. Most will leave, the hard-up will remain and sign on for a future of getting screwed.
