North Sea incident today (12th June 09)

[GJM]

Don't have a lot of details on this but report was of lost engine.

Problably not a massive issue to you pros, landed on platform safely...awaiting engineer I believe.

In addtion, I'm told it was Bristows and it landed on the Auk.

Checked the Bristows site : 76P ATD - 14:41 Status still at Outbound.

[DOUBLE BOGEY]

Loss of an engine in flight for any pilot with a current Certificate of Test (LPC) should not be a problem!!!!

[helimutt]

That was a bit careless. Losing an engine? Wonder where it is.

As stated, not a big issue unless you only have one engine. Even then, isn't that what we're trained for?

[GJM]

No like I said not a big deal to the pilots but pax bit concerned.

Sure we had one lose (power) to an engine and they ended up turning back but guess it was more sensible to land on this occasion.

[HeliComparator]

76P had an engine chip warning and landed on the Auk - sorry to disappoint but it didn't have an engine failure!

It took a long time to fix because of the difficulty in getting an engineer out to the installation - I believe Bond Jigsaw helped out - then it seems the battery was left on too long and went flat during the start, and the offshore ground power was unserviceable. Had to send a ground power unit by boat from the Fulmar etc etc. The "Chip" was a tiny sliver of course....

HC

[tottigol]

If they lost an engine, wouldn't it affect their W&B?

Of course just kidding, glad everyone onboard was safe and sound.

[helimutt]

In other words, another day on the North Sea? Chip light? Come on. Wonder how many more there were that day?

[malabo]

Any reason the pilots didn't check the engine chip plug themselves? What operator would let a pilot fly an aircraft without ensuring that first they can at least pull and check a bayonet-type chip plug?

[Horror box]

Any reason the pilots didn't check the engine chip plug themselves? What operator would let a pilot fly an aircraft without ensuring that first they can at least pull and check a bayonet-type chip plug?

Yeah right!!!!! I remember a day when we were trusted to do such things, but come on Malabo, you know the answer here - I sense you are after a bite! We are not even allowed to look at the cowlings to closely or for too long in case we get funny ideas about opening them!

[The Sultan]

How big was the chip found a week before the 332 shucked it's rotor?

The Sultan

[oldlag]

Why cant you check out a simple mag plug.!! Looks like a QAM problem

[NorthSeaTiger]

Probably because they are wirelocked and most of us don't carry a pair of snips/wirelocking pliers and a roll of wire.

NST

[GJM]

Sorry to disappoint but it didn't have an engine failure!

Failure or not it wouldn't have mattered, spare one in the bag.

Don't shoot the messenger....after all it does say rumour network

[Mars]

GJM,

Yes, but a pilot's rumour forum; could I suggest that you find a maritime forum and make foolish comments there.

Any one who dismisses the consequence of an engine failure (on a rig take-off or landing) lightly, clearly does not understand the issues.

oldlag - gone are the days when pilots could make any such intervention; additionally, having looked at the magplug, what next?

Mars

[GJM]

What was foolish about reporting on something I was told, I knew it would be corrected if wrong by those in the know.

Who is dismissing anything, as you know I'm not a pilot the general feeling of the fully trained pilot seems to be that loss of an engine is not such an issue.

I as the outsider would have thought it's not the cleverest thing to have to deal with.

Yes a pilots rumour forum but I would have to hazzard a guess that there are a large number of non pilots that post, of course you will have to take my inferior non pilot opinion on that!

[GJM]

gone are the days when pilots could make any such intervention; additionally, having looked at the magplug, what next?

Perhaps a look at other things, like attitude, size of head and other chips, ie ones on shoulder!

[HeliComparator]

What was foolish about reporting on something I was told

The standard answer from a "tabloid reporter" only interested in generating scandal. I would like to think that Pprune was more of a "quality paper", where the journos would report only stuff they had validated. Looking at your previous posts you seem to like to pick up on any potential scandal and post it, without any knowledge of the issues. This does nothing to enhance safety, improve the image of the industry, or keep the passengers who read this forum from a constant state of worry

HC

[SASless]

Ah the good old days....when you were issued a small canvas tool bag that contained yer wire, pliers, and chip gouge for comparing what you found, and a collection of paper shop towels and plastic baggies for collecting the offending items for the Engineer's use when you got back home.

Some American outfits have FAA approved training courses for their pilots for just such an occasion as happened. The pilot is always the last call on whether the aircraft is flown after the chip plug is pulled and thus can call for the spanner droppers if he deems it proper before firing the old bird up again.

But....that would require opening a cowling and getting one's hands greasy.

If you have never flown in the bush....you just haven't really flown helicopters!

[coning angel]

when you were issued a small canvas tool bag that contained yer wire, pliers, and chip gouge for comparing what you found, and a collection of paper shop towels and plastic baggies for collecting the offending items for the Engineer's use when you got back home.

Nowadays, in the Southern North Sea, don't the engineers just leave the ball of lock wire up in the control run area so that it's there to use when necessary?

[Heli-phile]

Flaming MARS

Wow MARS that was a bit heavy going. I think thats called flaming.
Flying profiles are what we are paid for and trained for.

Maybe a new thread for acronyms of MARS

I'll start : Miserable And Rarely Smiles