Taking bets on how many FTO's and AOC's will be lost.
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And yes, had a near brush with JCB a few years back, got warned off from her ladyship " small beastie with big pointy teeth " alledgelly. if that is spelt correctly I will be amazed as I have had to many beers now. My name is not fluffy5 but head of the CAA.Even if that does not work I'm just a poor helicopter pilot that cannot afford a solicitor.
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There will be testing times, inevitably with some casualties.
Others will survive the worst through prudent management and lower costs (fuel, interest rates, etc, although exchange rates work both ways).
Can't help thinking that there is too much talk of 'doom and gloom', especially by the BBC, which is erroding the most important factor in any economy - confidence.
Others will survive the worst through prudent management and lower costs (fuel, interest rates, etc, although exchange rates work both ways).
Can't help thinking that there is too much talk of 'doom and gloom', especially by the BBC, which is erroding the most important factor in any economy - confidence.
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Interesting Conundrum - lower costs SHOULD mean lower prices to allow people to afford more flying ?? (Has fuel come down yet ?) As a student I have not yet seen any of these reductions trickle through to me ?
Less customers - may mean higher prices to cover those same fixed costs through less flying hours - but that puts off more people from more flying !
Less customers - may mean higher prices to cover those same fixed costs through less flying hours - but that puts off more people from more flying !
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Yes fuel (at least AVTUR) has dropped recently. Our delivered fuel has dropped from 55p to 39.5p a litre in 2 months.
You will probably find that airports will not be passing on the decrease to prop up any profits (or reduce loss) due to the tough financial times.
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Yes fuel (at least AVTUR) has dropped recently. Our delivered fuel has dropped from 55p to 39.5p a litre in 2 months.
You will probably find that airports will not be passing on the decrease to prop up any profits (or reduce loss) due to the tough financial times.
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Yep, with the lowering fuel cost's for only a particularly short time. The airport and service companies are not going to be passing on the price reduction, in fact in 9 month's time they will probably go up again. Also the small G.A. airfield's around the country will have a real hard time, with having to put up landing fee's or even handling charges, or worse case cease to operate. Think how that will impact are corporate role, " drop the punters off at the hotel, and I can just pick up the fuel I need at, Oh bugger there shut now ! "
But at least you won't have property developers trying to snap them up at the moment.
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But at least you won't have property developers trying to snap them up at the moment.
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Just heard from a few people that a southern company is having big difficulties at the moment, and no I'm not a pessimist, just a realist. If pilots see what is going on around them, they can plan what their next move will be.
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Just got a cv through on my desk from, a person who actually run's the company, up north. well known company. I do hope his pilots know what is going on.....
start the count at 1 Aoc/ fto down.
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start the count at 1 Aoc/ fto down.
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I heard a rumour that a co. on the south coast UK has had one a/c taken off them by the owner for non payment/lack of use, and this could lead to further problems for them. That might mean the count will be at two soon!
As i hear around there are a lot of non british - but european hotshots preparing to storm the island for flight training. The reason simple, the strong devaluation of the GPB. More than 20% down in 3 months 
Seldom got so much fun for my Euro than in the last months in Iceland and Norway.
Now i'm steering to LCY next week.
Unfortunately there is nothing left for me in flight training. Therefore i decided to buy out London on a corridor from LCY to Wembley and to impress the ladies with real money.
Be prepared
after monday and hide the girls! 
Seldom got so much fun for my Euro than in the last months in Iceland and Norway. Now i'm steering to LCY next week.
Unfortunately there is nothing left for me in flight training. Therefore i decided to buy out London on a corridor from LCY to Wembley and to impress the ladies with real money.
Be prepared
after monday and hide the girls!
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Hello Camp freddie,
I have Pm you back, did you recieve. It's not a surprise. There will be alot of one man bands folding by the summer. Rising fuel costs again, airport fee's increasing and less punters with the finance.
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I have Pm you back, did you recieve. It's not a surprise. There will be alot of one man bands folding by the summer. Rising fuel costs again, airport fee's increasing and less punters with the finance.
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Yep PDG, the scare mongering about the company. A good mate works for them, it is not as bad as people think. In fact PDG have done the smart thing and actually looked forward and pre planned for this, not like the majority of companies that are purely reactionary.
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Hello Again,
Now at the begining of 2010, are we any better off in the UK market.
I think not, in fact this will be a worse year than 2009.
The training organisations have just had a delayed reaction of the kick in the nuts from last year. From the amount of aircraft up for sale in helidata alot of owners are desperate sell.
Tiger on a 4 day week, Coventry airport up the swany, aeromega very small turn over, patriot barely breathing and who else is going to try and survie this year.
Anyone desperate enough to pay for their own IR still.
Have talked to some experienced free lance all twined and IR'd up old boys, and they are not being called anymore.
Today fluffy 5 the grim reaper of a positive market place........
Now at the begining of 2010, are we any better off in the UK market.
I think not, in fact this will be a worse year than 2009.
The training organisations have just had a delayed reaction of the kick in the nuts from last year. From the amount of aircraft up for sale in helidata alot of owners are desperate sell.
Tiger on a 4 day week, Coventry airport up the swany, aeromega very small turn over, patriot barely breathing and who else is going to try and survie this year.
Anyone desperate enough to pay for their own IR still.
Have talked to some experienced free lance all twined and IR'd up old boys, and they are not being called anymore.
Today fluffy 5 the grim reaper of a positive market place........
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Wow - fluffy5's prediction of doom this year is 5 days later than last!
In other news, I have heard the world will end 10:05 this morning. Its been a blast folks!!
In other news, I have heard the world will end 10:05 this morning. Its been a blast folks!!