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Old 19th Oct 2009, 03:51
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Hy everyone,my name is Jean and im presently building a bell 205 simulator.I would need if possible a 205 pilot book and anything that could help in terms of emergency procedures and stuff.Thanks in advance.You can see the Bell 206 BIII that i built last year .That one is FAA and DOT level 2 certified.

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Old 19th Oct 2009, 17:18
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Jean,

Contact eivissa on this thread. He has copies of the Rotorcraft Flight Manuals for the BH205A and B205A1 plus the Transition Manual for the B205A1. That should help you.
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 17:42
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Mountain Flying Manual

I know it's not an aircraft manual, but has anyone got a mountain flying manual? Specifically the one from the Caniadian Mountain School or anything that would compare...
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POH/Manuals

Any MD 500/369 POH or manuals? D and E models in pdf?


thanks in advance

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Old 26th Oct 2009, 20:05
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POH/ Flight manuals

Thanks to all you replied.

Thanks very much to Evissa for your quick response. I owe you a drink!
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Old 17th Nov 2009, 18:13
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Rotary knowledgebase

Following eivissa posting of manuals, It enabled me to further research a project i had been working on. Thanks Julien.

I think a helicopter knowledgebase is overdue - shared information. So many times i myself have been trying to get the answer to something buried deep somewhere in a manual I know i have seen, or engineers are trying to fix something that only one person in some dark corner of the factory can answer. I've always thought we needed a central repository of info where we can quickly search a technical topic to help us through our days of toil. This knowledge base will be searchable online and with a capable smartphone (for those in the back of beyond where things always seem to break).

Using some of the info from Julien, I have started putting together a searchable database. I would very much appreciate any feedback on usefulness (or lack of).

I am working on manufacturer support, as accurate and good quality documentation is what we all want.

So far i have put together some info for the AS350, AW139 and EC135 as examples of what is possible. I really wanted to include an S76 and Bell product as examples as well, but just didn't have quite the quality in docs i felt would justify the products.

I will be working on a simple means for user contribution to User Materials where people can submit their own hard won knowledge for the benefit of all. There is an example in the knowledgebase under AS350, topic - 'Fault Diagnosis' for any that have struggled with AS350 generator issues .

If you want to check out these examples, go to the test site RotorInfo Home and pm me with any feedback. just go to Knowledgebase and select an aircraft from the menu. Then enter a topic and see if its of use.

One word of caution, this site is constantly being updated and if you see something strange, it's probably me doing something with it.

Thanks again to eivissa for his sterling efforts and all those who contributed.
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Old 20th Nov 2009, 09:48
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Thanks George for the great work with RotorInfo. Please keep us all updated with your promising project
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Old 20th Nov 2009, 11:29
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Devil

Some questions rise on my first visit there....

Available Plans
Here is the list of subscriptions available on this site. Library access and download
Library RotorInfo Library Access
1 Years Library
Means commercial interests out of "donated" material or not?!

Second
producers like for example EC, will not be happy that someone else in
public keeps knowledge base, lawyers have been once already on
track on other guy who offered similar "knowledge"

NHF
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Old 20th Nov 2009, 17:48
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RotorInfo

Hi 9APlus.

Thanks for your comments.

When I first saw your post, I wondered what you were talking about but then I realized that I had inadvertently left the subscribe option in the main menu even though I had removed the Library menu option itself . Thanks for pointing that out. It has been removed.

Originally before anything was available, I intended developing a subscription library which would have been developed from materials available but would require manufacturer support. I realized that to redevelop all the material would be an extensive process ( I did start putting together things like interactive caution panels which would highlight details and actions, an example of this is in the knowledgebase ). I think it was Heliwrench that got the Dear John letter from our friends at EC. There is a huge difference in the quality of materials and even the methods of conveying it. Eg. in Marignane, I've seen EC use interactive electronic training materials for some of their aircraft but in the US, it's often a power point presentation done by one of the instructor pilots, coupled to a ring binder (I should mention that the guys over at Eurosafety.us seem to have some pretty good stuff with interactive presentations etc). That's just training of course, but even having searchable information from the flight manuals and other handbooks can be very useful.

Whatever the material out there in books or people's heads, I think that there must be a better way of structuring it for general use. The most interesting point would be to gather knowledge collected by individuals in notes and by other means which might contribute to problem solving or just plain knowledge, like FRC's and other check lists (who knows, it might even make us safer) - simple things that aren't always to hand. Think of it as a wikipedia or google for our industry. I started constructing a knowledge base which is searchable and provides a way of quickly referencing topics of interest because i thought it may be useful - We were always trying to find those notes or that piece of paper that gave us the magic answer even though we had the DVD's and volumes of manuals . This of course could be extended to regs and other areas of our industry.

There is no substitute for good training and in my career, I have always favoured the factory for myself and anyone i worked with, but many times not all the knowledge could be conveyed in the time available, and often the most valuable pieces were mentioned in the hallways and over lunch with someone in the factory or periphery. I often think that whilst we are technically advanced in terms of EFIS etc (even though if you look at the intuitive user interface of an iphone and compare it with a Garmin, Honeywell or any other wizbang piece of glass, you must wonder) when it comes to the administrative side of the industry - well we're behind to say the least. Proprietary hardware and software architectures which are veiled in the regulatory nature of approval still prevail in the cockpit, but that needn't be on the ground where we can make full use of all the tools and the changing tide of information access.

Thanks again for your input and if anyone has any high quality S76 or Bell 407 materials, I would be happy to throw those examples up there as well.

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Old 30th Nov 2009, 11:24
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Update 16

Most wanted:
-Agusta 109 Training Manual
-Bell 212 Training Manual / Safety Manual
-KA32 RFM
-AB212 RFM
-S58, S58T, S61 - Training / Safety / Maintenance Manuals
-Engine - Training / Maintenance Manuals
-Bell 214ST Operator / Training / Safety Manual






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Old 30th Nov 2009, 18:48
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No more updates!

I am sorry guys, but there won't be any more official updates.

I was happy to help out, but the helicopter companies are using more and more legal pressure to stop this service.
They obviously don't want pilots to have easy access to their manuals, so I have removed all the uploaded manuals from rapidshare.

I am still offering help in case you need information on a certain type, just drop me a PM.

Feel free to comment on the service or the legal actions by the manufacturers. It would be great to hear your opinion!

...Oh and don't blame MD Helicopters. They are a role model on how it should be done

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Old 1st Dec 2009, 20:04
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Well on the one hand I respect that a business must assert it's rights over things it produces. On the other, I know of no other product where the documentation required for it's safe operation, maintenance, and use is not freely available. Free, shouldn't mean 1-5 years if you buy a shiny brand new one. It should mean as long as you are operating our product, we are going to make sure you remain supported and current with our product best practices.

With a new era of information access, most manufacturers (outside of aviation) are embracing the opportunity to share information with their customers, both current and potential (even curious perhaps). It's analogous to the software or music industry where open source and new methods of collaboration changed business models, and often what became public domain; in the case of the software industry free open source operating systems eg. Linux and it's various flavours, productivity suites eg. Open office, enlightened those who might not otherwise have had access to tools before. Then there are companies like Google who continue to innovate and provide tools that are available to all, changing the very landscape itself. It doesn't necessarily mean that people went out of business, it just meant that they had to rethink the way that they executed their business - even companies as powerful as Microsoft are making changes.

One might argue a strong case as I am suggesting, that it is in the very best interest of all concerned in the industry from manufacturers, pilots, engineers to regulators, that such information is published and available to all who seek it. I don't think that any qualified industry individual should have to plead for information or places to find it. It should be obvious and easy to access, even if it's qualified by a license registration process.

Thanks to eivissa and his unselfish efforts, which I'm sure seemed unrewarding at times, but are appreciated none the less by many here. For my part, I will continue working on my little search engine, hopefully with the support of manufacturers, and not in spite of them.

If they start publishing this material themselves in useful ways, and making it readily available - hats off to them, one for the good guys. MD Helicopters exception noted where access appears to require simple registration.

We will see who breaks out of the box and shows a little lateral thinking.
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Old 6th Dec 2009, 16:39
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Oh-58D Kiowa

Hi!

Do you have an Oh-58D Kiowa Flight Manual? I need this very badly especially cockpit data. Thank you...

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Old 7th Dec 2009, 17:01
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Does anyone have these flight manuals? Agusta 109, AW193,Bell 407, 430, and EC120, EC135

Thanks
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Old 7th Dec 2009, 22:33
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A109E Power

Hi! Anyone has RFM for A109E Power?? Tanks
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Old 12th Dec 2009, 20:00
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Ka 32 Flight Manual

Hi EIVISSA
Can you kindly guide me how to get KA 32 RFM (KA 32A11BC)
Thanks
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Old 12th Dec 2009, 20:03
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Ka 32 Flight Manual

Hi Patatas

Saw your query reg KA32 RFM. Were you successful in obtaining it.
If yes, may I request you for the same.
Thanks
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Old 14th Dec 2009, 04:41
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Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a copy of the B214B Transition Manual, I already have the RFM (thanks to Eivissa, cheers!).

Has anyone got a version of this I might be able to download?
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A109E MMEL Revision 4

Could anyone please help with the latest A109E MMEL version, or supply me with a useful link?

Thanks, FD

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Old 14th Dec 2009, 16:19
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To bad for all of us

MD is a leader in supplying manuals on line. I use maintenance and pilot manuals on the MD website.
I don't understand why a manufacturer does not want to make it easy to learn and understand an aircraft. I can't take the AFM/RFM out of the aircraft and for some models I do not have a copy at home.
Are they afraid we could know to much?
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