Helicopter Crash In Bettystown Ireland
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The Investigation has not identified any technical problem with the helicopter to date.
PRELIMINARY ACCIDENT REPORT
Yes, but the initial report says nothing about an engine fire or other which i'm sure would be mentioned if it had been a factor.
I thought from watching the video, that the tail rotor had struck the pole initially, not the main rotor. Anyway, I guess i'll look forward to the main report.
I thought from watching the video, that the tail rotor had struck the pole initially, not the main rotor. Anyway, I guess i'll look forward to the main report.
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Difficult to tell from such a small video picture, but the aircraft appears to roll and yaw to the left. If it was a tail rotor strike, it should be going the other way. So it looks to be consistent with what the initial report says.
Ragman . Your post seems quite confused / confusing !! Charter requires an aoc in any country but leasing ( which i think you will be referring to on jets etc ) does not as it is deemed to be a private flight where the hirer is the operator and he hires his own pilot . This is the way a few aoc,s are going now that the caa are strangling them to death with one hand whilst the other is picking their pocket .
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NigelH sorry if you are confused, but the question asked by pink panther was can you carry out a charter without an AOC, my answer was and is no you cant, the section about jets seems to be some companies that are trying to use leasing as a loop hole or whatever you may feel not to apply for an AOC. Im sure as you state if you ask the CAA the same question I think you know what the answer would be.
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CCTV footage from Bettystown.
YouTube - Helicopter crash meath ireland
From what I can see this hasn't been posted yet.
YouTube - Helicopter crash meath ireland
From what I can see this hasn't been posted yet.
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Helicopter pilot fined €5000 for crash
Thursday, 14 January 2010 20:58
The pilot of a helicopter that crashed and exploded into flames in County Meath has been fined €5,000 and given a three month suspended sentence.
William Curry tried to land the aircraft in the car park of the Neptune Hotel in Bettystown in September 2008.
The 35-year-old, from Kilcullen in Co Kildare, pleaded guilty to three charges brought by the Irish Aviation Authority.
The judge said it was a miracle that Mr Curry survived and that nobody else was killed or injured.
Thursday, 14 January 2010 20:58
The pilot of a helicopter that crashed and exploded into flames in County Meath has been fined €5,000 and given a three month suspended sentence.
William Curry tried to land the aircraft in the car park of the Neptune Hotel in Bettystown in September 2008.
The 35-year-old, from Kilcullen in Co Kildare, pleaded guilty to three charges brought by the Irish Aviation Authority.
The judge said it was a miracle that Mr Curry survived and that nobody else was killed or injured.
RTÉ News: Helicopter pilot fined €5000 for crash
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OMG.... not again!
Once again we have an incident/accident/tragedy completely shrouded by garbage, rumour and wonderful testimonials to a great/wonderful/hero pilot.. engine-failure... smoke.. tried to miss hospital/school/orphanage etc...and then the truth comes out. It really is time that Pprune became a password-enabled 'site for aviation professionals. IMHO of course. Cheers bm
IMHO of course. Cheers bm
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apparently there was some plea barganning going on and agreed he would admit carless, unfortunately the IAA man decided he wasnt going to stick to this and changed his mind and went to nail him on 6 different charges, I wasnt there but some guys who were said the IAA man called the press about the case and stood up and even said that after your LDP he should have gone around and stated that is the proceedure, he showed the judge the pictures of the wreckage and that was it all over.
No fine was handed out Press got it wrong as it was costs against the pilot to the IAA which they said is 5000 and one 3 month suspended sentence which is not a criminal conviction. Thats all I know but it seems bad form if the IAA are prepared to stand up and lie and also call the newspapers in. He has been in court twice and no press arrived as the IAA were not ready to proceed.
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No fine was handed out Press got it wrong as it was costs against the pilot to the IAA which they said is 5000 and one 3 month suspended sentence which is not a criminal conviction. Thats all I know but it seems bad form if the IAA are prepared to stand up and lie and also call the newspapers in. He has been in court twice and no press arrived as the IAA were not ready to proceed.
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We all feel commercial pressure now and again, and we all make mistakes, we are after all human. For this, the pilot has my sympathy.........but.......... but if you blatently fly illegally on a foreign PPL whilst taking payment and also stealing jobs from those who respect and trained under the rules then I have no sympathy. (and to land illegally on a beach without permission....... but the car park looks ok.....).
This sort of behaviour was rife when I was working in Ireland and to be perfectly honest, it's about time these cowboys got their comeuppance.
I keep my head below the parapettt on PPrune as a lurker and PM'er but this is simply too much to bear. I have seen guys train in the US (no problem there) and they come over to europe and break the terms of their license..... this is a classic example of "sure it'll be grand sure" as long as nothing goes wrong (and we don't get caught, i'll just say I was carrying that brown envelope for fun, and I also fly my friends for free whilst wearing a white shirt with 4 gold bars. obviously!). I'll take that envelope as long as it's nothing to do with that flight I just did. The inconsistencies with the story: I was flying for money... on second thoughts no I wasn't. not...on third thoughts....I changed my mind. On fourth thougts I was flying, no he was flying...we were both P1 even when he didn't pay me but the client did.... I mean did'nt........
Did I miss something???
PS. I don't want to get into a typing war. You can contact me by telegram or fax.
I hope every professsional pilot out there feels the same way as I do.
I hope you guys/girls go easy on me but I honestly believe people like that deserve all they get. And then not enough.........
This sort of behaviour was rife when I was working in Ireland and to be perfectly honest, it's about time these cowboys got their comeuppance.
I keep my head below the parapettt on PPrune as a lurker and PM'er but this is simply too much to bear. I have seen guys train in the US (no problem there) and they come over to europe and break the terms of their license..... this is a classic example of "sure it'll be grand sure" as long as nothing goes wrong (and we don't get caught, i'll just say I was carrying that brown envelope for fun, and I also fly my friends for free whilst wearing a white shirt with 4 gold bars. obviously!). I'll take that envelope as long as it's nothing to do with that flight I just did. The inconsistencies with the story: I was flying for money... on second thoughts no I wasn't. not...on third thoughts....I changed my mind. On fourth thougts I was flying, no he was flying...we were both P1 even when he didn't pay me but the client did.... I mean did'nt........
Did I miss something???
PS. I don't want to get into a typing war. You can contact me by telegram or fax.
I hope every professsional pilot out there feels the same way as I do.
I hope you guys/girls go easy on me but I honestly believe people like that deserve all they get. And then not enough.........
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Yes, two main issues. Firstly poor decision making/airmanship/unlucky - we've all been there before, call it what you like.
Secondly, the non-public transport, public transport work. I don't think the problem is unique to Ireland nor the rotary world. I'm sure we've all been tempted by offers from 'friends' or 'friends of friends'; how many GA pilots had smiles on their faces after this year's Icelandic volcanic ash farrago? The rules are clear and in many respects there to protect pilots from liability issues. Break them and be prepared to man-up to face the consequences.
Secondly, the non-public transport, public transport work. I don't think the problem is unique to Ireland nor the rotary world. I'm sure we've all been tempted by offers from 'friends' or 'friends of friends'; how many GA pilots had smiles on their faces after this year's Icelandic volcanic ash farrago? The rules are clear and in many respects there to protect pilots from liability issues. Break them and be prepared to man-up to face the consequences.