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Old 14th Jun 2008, 16:01
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How hot and high is it in Yootaw?
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 16:33
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Lake elevation is around 4500'. Elevation where he was performing is probably a little higher than that. Daytime temps in the 32-33C range.

I thought the same looking at the video clip: never got fast enough on his low pass, pull up from too low an altitude (about 50') to do a loop, never got enough altitude, completed the flip at the top and then didn't have enough altitude, power, or speed to arrest the descent. A little surprised that someone with Kenyon's airshow experience would have got caught like that. Though the obits are full of good airshow pilots that got caught out. They interviewed him at the end of the video after the crash, so he's thankfully OK, though naturally disappointed. I think at sea level and cooler temp when the 300 isn't running like its got a flat cylinder he wouldn't have had a problem. Too bad.

I'd be just a tad concerned about lending out a heliocopter for manouvers that could compromise a C of A renewal. Not a problem anymore in this case, instead the owner who has to convince the insurance company to buy his helicopter.

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Old 14th Jun 2008, 20:55
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Smile DRK

Glad to see you are ok Dennis, take it easy buddy, regards Tim
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 21:58
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Even monkeys fall out of trees every now and then!

Keep at it Dennis.....we all admire your flying!
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 22:06
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Glad you are ok Dennis.

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Old 15th Jun 2008, 11:39
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Glad you are OK Dennis... hope to see you back in the saddle soon though!
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 14:05
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Nice to see that you survived this Dennis (looked quite unpleasant); it would be good to hear your view on why this happened.

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Old 15th Jun 2008, 14:45
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Glad your ok Dennis - perhaps you could educate us all to what actually happend from your point of view.

It just shows that no matter how experienced you are - you never stop learning up there!
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 21:17
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Wow! after seeing the video it is remarkable that Dennis walked out ok, and yet another testimony about how strong airframe the 300 really is.
D.K. hope this will not stop you from keep going on with your great display.
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 01:20
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The whole routine can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZILBd-mNI

It's only a couple minutes long.
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 07:37
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Damm thats a hard impact...

Never seen those moves pulled of in one of these before... still havent i guess

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Old 16th Jun 2008, 08:13
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Dennis,
Glad you are Ok.
Rgds,
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 11:09
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What about the 46 hour PPL who seeks to emulate the venerable Denis and kills himself in the process. Surely it is time for someone from the Palace of Those Who Must Be Obeyed to breathe gently in Denis`s ear to cool it and do something within the aircraft`s flight manual limitations for a change.
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 11:16
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Go away Snarlie
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 11:23
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Emulating Dennis

Snarlie - Does that mean we need to get rid of the Red Arrows and all the other display teams.

Dennis has a skill that he has displayed for many years - any low hour PPl who is tempted to copy Dennis is probably dead already from checking if a mains cable is live by touching it or getting into a Lions cage to see if it is hungry.


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Old 16th Jun 2008, 12:29
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Dannis, any landing you walk away from... so very glad you are OK.

Snarlie, any crazy flying act - indeed any act at all - at an airshow is open to copying by the undisciplined and inexperienced (and terminally stupid) - so, hey, let's just ban airshows, eh?
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 15:04
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You will find that the Red Arrows along with most other professional display teams operate their aircraft within the operating limitations of their aircraft. Since when has the 300 been cleared for inverted aerobatic manoeuvres at low level.
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 16:08
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Snarlie

AFAIK, Dennis is fully certified by the appropriate bodies to perform the displays that he does.

If you don't like that then fine, but this thread is not the best one to make your thoughts known on the matter - start a new one if you want some discussion on the issue.
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 17:26
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Snarlie, that wasn't a smart thing to say.

It wasn't the flying outside limitations that got him, it was a manuver miscalculation, and that can happen to anybody even when flying within limitations.

I'm glad he's ok, and if he ever reads it, he has to know he's got a Fan Club in Mexico.
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 17:32
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So..............is the aerobatic manoeuvre within the flight manual limitation as Snarlie asks.
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