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Old 4th Jun 2008, 01:10
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Transparent Investigations...

Very Sad news indeed,

For those in the know... How transparent and open is the crash investigation likely to be ??

Are the aircraft fitted with CVR?

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Old 4th Jun 2008, 03:20
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Transparency

How transparent and open is the crash investigation likely to be ??
Sadly, as horrible as this sounds, I'm not very optimistic it will be because of who was onboard which ofcourse will only fuel speculation and rumours. I find that to be unfair to the grieving family members, and the aviation community at large.

Only time will tell.
 
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The Captain was John Hanley an American who has a wife and child living in Thailand. John was Chief Pilot before becoming Operation Manager with ADA. Too early to speculate on cause of crash but John was definitely in the back seat of VIP aircraft. Co-Pilot and Shaikh at the controls...what was that all about. Tragic mistake that caused the five fatalities.
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Old 4th Jun 2008, 05:23
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Can someone in the know p.m. me with the name of the co-pilot please?
RIP John.
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Old 4th Jun 2008, 08:07
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139 Down Abu Dabai?

My heartfelt condolences to all those left behind to grieve the irreperable loss.
It will be in the interest of us all who fly the AW 139 and in the reputation of the manufacturers of the 139 to make public the reasons for the crash. In the meantime as professional courtesy demands we should stop speculation and not spread rumors.
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Old 4th Jun 2008, 09:39
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RIP to a larger than life character

Condolences to John's and the others families. Certainly a larger than life character in the aviation industry. RIP mate.
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Old 4th Jun 2008, 21:05
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National Co-Pilot's name is Obaid Al Mahashdra.
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Old 4th Jun 2008, 21:06
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picture of the UAE 139 accident !

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Old 5th Jun 2008, 05:10
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Not much of a horizon there.
Just a thought, and not meant to get any one's back up but maybe overwater flight with a poorly defined horizon and a small unoticed ROD.
Similar thing happend to an offshore machine which i read about on prune.

Condolences to friends and family.
 
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john hanley [ 0perations manager ]
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Old 5th Jun 2008, 07:06
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Hi Foggy
John was american, Married to a Thai lady and was living in Thailand.
His Body will be sent to Thailand within next 2-3 days

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Old 5th Jun 2008, 13:06
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ADA Accident.

This is indeed a tragedy, and is incumbent on those left behind to learn from this, regardless of cause.
What is certain is this presentation of our own mortality, our abilities and responsibilities is now up front and very personal.
We cannot, and indeed should not take for granted even the slightest issue with our profession.
Who is right is never the issue; what is right will always surface.
My condolence to the Families and friends.
Yet another tragic loss.
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Old 5th Jun 2008, 13:31
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Not much of a horizon there
The accident was between 19:45 to 20:00 !
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sad to say but....

sad thing is john would have felt the "pressure" on this one...........

RIP John............

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Old 5th Jun 2008, 15:25
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recovered from the crash site

The 139 has both CVR and FDR, both of which are in the hands of the UAE Airforce now.
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Old 6th Jun 2008, 04:35
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The accident was between 19:45 to 20:00 !

In my country its pretty light at that time in summer. although im not sure whats it like over in the UAE.
In northern Canada we never have issues with an horizon in snow conditions that time of day.

Still as sad event.
 
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In my country its pretty light at that time in summer. although im not sure whats it like over in the UAE
dark night !
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Old 6th Jun 2008, 07:30
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Hughesy:


Our snow storms over here in the Gulf aren't nearly as frequent as yours?
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Old 6th Jun 2008, 08:51
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His name was JOHN HANLEY.
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Old 6th Jun 2008, 08:58
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Transparency ??? I hope.
The FDR/CVR are in the hands of the UAE Airforce and are supposed to be sent to Agusta for processing.
I guess Agusta may send the unit back to Penny & Giles or the NTSB for analysis.
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