Bankstown Base - its all good
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Bankstown Base - its all good
The Vinnies boys are getting it on in public, The classic is making a triumphant return, Another army recruit (thankyou jesus), cool hand - where are you? Surf is up (thankyou Raymond), Carebears making the news - its all good
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Fool? From someone who doesn`t know the difference between `bored` and `board` ?
An interpretation of Riadabec`s cryptic post:
"The Vinnie Boys....." = The NGO charities are in high profile.
"The Classic....." = The CHC 412`s are frequently unserviceable .
"Another Army..." =Thank god for a competent rescue pilot versus a temp from CHC offshore.
"Cool hand..." = Regrets for a competent pilot who has left the job.
"Surf is up" = reference to a well publicised recent job completed by Surf Lifesaver before CHC could get off the ground.
"Carebears..." = CareFlight is also outperfoming CHC .
In the words of CHC , there are no dodgy clients, the customer is always right!
An interpretation of Riadabec`s cryptic post:
"The Vinnie Boys....." = The NGO charities are in high profile.
"The Classic....." = The CHC 412`s are frequently unserviceable .
"Another Army..." =Thank god for a competent rescue pilot versus a temp from CHC offshore.
"Cool hand..." = Regrets for a competent pilot who has left the job.
"Surf is up" = reference to a well publicised recent job completed by Surf Lifesaver before CHC could get off the ground.
"Carebears..." = CareFlight is also outperfoming CHC .
In the words of CHC , there are no dodgy clients, the customer is always right!
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Fool? From someone who doesn`t know the difference between `bored` and `board` ?
Idiot.
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Miles Off!!
"ApocalypseThen" Interesting interpretation but you are a little off track, perhaps you should re-calculate your drift before you end up looking worse than Raidbec...
Suspect that "Vinnies boys" refers to the recent public falling out between a couple of the medicos.
Meanwhile, another highly experienced pilot (with years of local knowledge and SAR experience) has left Bankstown for greener pastures elsewhere.
Meanwhile, another highly experienced pilot (with years of local knowledge and SAR experience) has left Bankstown for greener pastures elsewhere.
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Riadbec,
Hows the wood pile at the big brother house working for you?
It seems that with all your posts, there always seems to be a couple of common traits! The good old tall poppy syndrome and that you still live in fantasy land, thinking that by slandering chc over normal helicopter ops that they will be booted from the contract and you can get back to flying your lovely BK'S. Grow a brain, chc are finally dragging the EMS helicopter fleet into the moden era! Finally.
Hows the wood pile at the big brother house working for you?
It seems that with all your posts, there always seems to be a couple of common traits! The good old tall poppy syndrome and that you still live in fantasy land, thinking that by slandering chc over normal helicopter ops that they will be booted from the contract and you can get back to flying your lovely BK'S. Grow a brain, chc are finally dragging the EMS helicopter fleet into the moden era! Finally.
New era?
chc are finally dragging the EMS helicopter fleet into the moden era! Finally.
Not so sure of that from what I have heard.
They still don't appear to have a true EMS focus. The 139 is a good a/c. But it takes more than the right a/c. Overall, procedures and policies are more important than a/c type.
Anyway, time will tell in the end. For now, I happy enough that you are so confident.
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Modern era???
Quote:chc are finally dragging the EMS helicopter fleet into the moden era! Finally.
'Moderen era'???? There are still two B412EP's on the flight line at Bankstown and a 'classic' in Wollongong!
How's that for state of the art?
Me thinks 'lookatme' may like to look at the date. More than one year into 'the bigger, better, faster contract' and still no operational AW139's with a strong rumour of a B412 'classic' repalcing one of the EP's at B'town. 'Modern era' eh ?????
One step fwd two steps back me thinks.
This may be the fault of the either or both parties involved but you're as blind as a welders dog if you can't see that this is a mess and progress is painfully...read potentially dangerously slow.
Rumour is that one AW139 is still basically in the delivery crate at B'town. Slow golf clap please
slats11 is right...... there is a long long long way to go before either party can claim EMS is the focus. 'Retrieval' services are the focus of the ASNSW and business rules are CHC's main focus.
The poor unknowing public, people in need of Emergency assistance will have to wait and god help us, maybe hope HIRT survives.
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Not the first and wont be the last...
Banger,
Folald is not the first and wont be the last to "jump the gun"
It seems it's a new concept for some in NSW to just go about the job and not feel the need to tell every tom dick and harry how good you are at it.
Thumbs up to CHC for doing just that
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Folald is not the first and wont be the last to "jump the gun"
It seems it's a new concept for some in NSW to just go about the job and not feel the need to tell every tom dick and harry how good you are at it.
Thumbs up to CHC for doing just that
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"It seems it's a new concept for some in NSW to just go about the job and not feel the need to tell every tom dick and harry how good you are at it."
Er, maybe that's because they are already months overdue in delivering new aircraft for a contract which they won partly based on their claimed ability to deliver these aircraft sooner than their competitors (who also tendered using EC145 and AW139). The contract is on the net. AW139 for Wollongong in Feb 2008, and AW139 in Sydney in June 2008.
Er, maybe that's because they are already months overdue in delivering new aircraft for a contract which they won partly based on their claimed ability to deliver these aircraft sooner than their competitors (who also tendered using EC145 and AW139). The contract is on the net. AW139 for Wollongong in Feb 2008, and AW139 in Sydney in June 2008.
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Folald and Slats11
Like all new A/C the wants of haveing it on time from the manufatura always shift! If know the industry as well as you portray you do then you would know! Or sorry is it because you have never had a new A/C before SORRY MATEies!
As for the 412's they are an intrum machine, the client needed something better than a heli that could only carry fuel or pax ! And for that classic you said was on its way to bankstown, well you in the know would know that it was done by the client! You guy's really have your fingers on the pulse! Got any more heli rego's in your plane spotting books from behind the fence?
Riadbec
How's flying the BK compare to flying the 412 in bankstown?
Like all new A/C the wants of haveing it on time from the manufatura always shift! If know the industry as well as you portray you do then you would know! Or sorry is it because you have never had a new A/C before SORRY MATEies!
As for the 412's they are an intrum machine, the client needed something better than a heli that could only carry fuel or pax ! And for that classic you said was on its way to bankstown, well you in the know would know that it was done by the client! You guy's really have your fingers on the pulse! Got any more heli rego's in your plane spotting books from behind the fence?
Riadbec
How's flying the BK compare to flying the 412 in bankstown?
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Its not what you have, its how you use it.
Lookatme, you appear to be focused on the a/c to the exclusion of just about everything else.
Yes the 139 is a good machine - although it does have some limitations with respect to EMS work.
Yes 6 months slippage is not uncommon, and is possibly not that important in the context of a 7 year contract.
The real question remains, how are you going to operate the 139 when you finally get your hands on them?
If you are not going to make full use of the EEC, if you are going to persist with RWY operations, if you are going to have to deal with operational limitations with respect to taxiways, if you are not going to integrate the front and back seat crew ..... then we all know that the yellow 117 on the coast will need to stick around.
Yes the 139 is a good machine - although it does have some limitations with respect to EMS work.
Yes 6 months slippage is not uncommon, and is possibly not that important in the context of a 7 year contract.
The real question remains, how are you going to operate the 139 when you finally get your hands on them?
If you are not going to make full use of the EEC, if you are going to persist with RWY operations, if you are going to have to deal with operational limitations with respect to taxiways, if you are not going to integrate the front and back seat crew ..... then we all know that the yellow 117 on the coast will need to stick around.
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Modern Era delayed?
You may have to wait a little longer for the 2nd 139 to be in service due the airframe being dropped off a fork lift at Mascot whilst unloading. The impact was sufficent to trigger the EPIRB. Who knows how long it will take to find all the hidden damage or will it be sent back to the factory?
Wait and see..
Wait and see..
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2nd 139 to be in service due the airframe being dropped off a fork lift at Mascot whilst unloading. The impact was sufficent to trigger the EPIRB.
Or, are you guys really off in fantasy land, like your lingo.
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The activation of an EPIRB in a brand new heli (which was in a freight container) at YSSY is fact (I know the guy who switched it off for AUSSAR).
How it was activated is anyones guess.
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How it was activated is anyones guess.
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Where would it be coming from that it would have an EPIRB already mounted
Which country did this particular A/C come from?
Would it be a country that would even have a requirement to carry an EPIRB, let alone have them armed in the packing crates before they are shipped???? Give us a break guys.
tet,
I think you should really get out more often.
Try Italy and then you might understand the circumstances.
On this occasion the EPIRB was obviously not turned "OFF" which is something that is very rarely done.
On the other hand, everything was sweet until some ******** in Australia dropped the aircraft.
Who is the bigger **** - your call!
I think you should really get out more often.
Try Italy and then you might understand the circumstances.
On this occasion the EPIRB was obviously not turned "OFF" which is something that is very rarely done.
On the other hand, everything was sweet until some ******** in Australia dropped the aircraft.
Who is the bigger **** - your call!
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Are you guys for real?
Gents,
... and here I was thinking the off-shore pilots ranted and raved about some pretty trivial stuff but wow, you guys have cornered the market!
I thought this thread was about ascertaining the success (or otherwise) of the CHC contract. How exactly did it degenerate into a slanging match over dropping acft during shipment and ELT's going off?
More to the point, are there actually people out there who are attributing these incidents to CHC (or at least insinuating as much) and therefore deducing that as a result, they are incapable of introducing a new type / fulfilling their EMS responsibilities?
It's obvious that some on this forum are still v bitter (twisted?) over the whole shake up there in Sydney. I have no doubt that the transition has been difficult and will continue to be. But how about we keep the rhetoric within the bounds of possiblity rather than spruiking all this conspiracy stuff.
P68
... and here I was thinking the off-shore pilots ranted and raved about some pretty trivial stuff but wow, you guys have cornered the market!
I thought this thread was about ascertaining the success (or otherwise) of the CHC contract. How exactly did it degenerate into a slanging match over dropping acft during shipment and ELT's going off?
More to the point, are there actually people out there who are attributing these incidents to CHC (or at least insinuating as much) and therefore deducing that as a result, they are incapable of introducing a new type / fulfilling their EMS responsibilities?
It's obvious that some on this forum are still v bitter (twisted?) over the whole shake up there in Sydney. I have no doubt that the transition has been difficult and will continue to be. But how about we keep the rhetoric within the bounds of possiblity rather than spruiking all this conspiracy stuff.
P68
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On this occasion the EPIRB was obviously not turned "OFF" which is something that is very rarely done.
On the other hand, everything was sweet until some ******** in Australia dropped the aircraft.
Who is the bigger **** - your call!
On the other hand, everything was sweet until some ******** in Australia dropped the aircraft.
Who is the bigger **** - your call!
But how about we keep the rhetoric within the bounds of possiblity rather than spruiking all this conspiracy stuff.
You could easily verify your claim by copying it onto this forum, not necessarily with your signature.
Next thing you'll be telling us that the manufacturers of those magnificient marques (maserati and the like) that originate from the same country that you mention, are dispatched without engine sump plugs, into shipping crates.
Oh and just especially for rivet divet, I've been out and about in this game for long enough, to learn just a tad, thank you.
tet