I guess they don't like Heli's !!!!
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A long time ago (17 years to be exact) I looked after the noise and track keeping system at Heathrow, one of my tasks was to calibrate the equipment at the remote noise monitoring sites, while there a chap came up, full of lip complaining about the noise from the aircraft overflying his house. The conversation kind of went like this.
"These bloody things are runing my life, can't get any peace!"
So I asked him where he lived, right under the flight path as it happened next to the noise monitor.
Then I asked him did he go on hoilday this year, yes he said, he had two hoildays a year...
Then I asked him, Oh which airport did you fly from then?
"Heathrow" was the answer...
Tel you what L & L shoot me down, but why don't you book a trial lesson in a helicopter, you might find it quite fun? I know when I got hooked, suddenly helicopters flying overhead were a lot more interesting.
Kev.
A long time ago (17 years to be exact) I looked after the noise and track keeping system at Heathrow, one of my tasks was to calibrate the equipment at the remote noise monitoring sites, while there a chap came up, full of lip complaining about the noise from the aircraft overflying his house. The conversation kind of went like this.
"These bloody things are runing my life, can't get any peace!"
So I asked him where he lived, right under the flight path as it happened next to the noise monitor.
Then I asked him did he go on hoilday this year, yes he said, he had two hoildays a year...
Then I asked him, Oh which airport did you fly from then?
"Heathrow" was the answer...
Tel you what L & L shoot me down, but why don't you book a trial lesson in a helicopter, you might find it quite fun? I know when I got hooked, suddenly helicopters flying overhead were a lot more interesting.
Kev.
Either Low Level is a complete dork.....or is guilty of a very fine bit of pprune fishing!
In the first case....nothing will be gained by either side to this discussion and in the latter he should get accolades for a fine job!
In the first case....nothing will be gained by either side to this discussion and in the latter he should get accolades for a fine job!
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he has a motor bike and uses that every evening (custom type) which is just as loud as the heli and overall runs for a longer time?
Then you have the chap who gets the strimmer out on a Sunday afternoon for three hours on a trot.
Then you have the chap who gets the strimmer out on a Sunday afternoon for three hours on a trot.
I think when they made the 28 day rule they lumped all forms of transport together, one could argue that landing the helicopter in a garden is just the same (transport wise) as driving a car up the drive - maybe this was correct, maybe not?
Don't forget that the helicopter was designed for just that, trips into confined areas, to base them all at airports would seem to be a waste, we would all have to fly around in fixed wing thing - which by the way aren't all that quiet either...
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L and L,
Just a thought, but you've been spending a lot of time over the last day or so on this forum. Is it conceivable that, whilst directing your concentration into posting here, rather than skyward at "offending" helicopters, the noise may have become less intrusive?
Just a thought, but you've been spending a lot of time over the last day or so on this forum. Is it conceivable that, whilst directing your concentration into posting here, rather than skyward at "offending" helicopters, the noise may have become less intrusive?
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The difference is that you rode bikes for sport. We're doing it for a living.
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Right, must go - got a life to lead.
There goes another light aircraft - right overhead, probably about 400 feet.
There goes another light aircraft - right overhead, probably about 400 feet.
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Dragman, 
There has been 2 today, quite a good day, I still heard them, but strangely they made me smile and now I am missing them!
But like I have said, it is not 2 or 5 that bother me, it is when it gets to 20 it gets too much. Really hard to ignore them when the windows are open or you are outside.
But, the next one I see will probably get a cheery wave rather than a manic hand gesture
Unless it is the really deep sounding one.....
There has been 2 today, quite a good day, I still heard them, but strangely they made me smile and now I am missing them!
But like I have said, it is not 2 or 5 that bother me, it is when it gets to 20 it gets too much. Really hard to ignore them when the windows are open or you are outside.
But, the next one I see will probably get a cheery wave rather than a manic hand gesture
Unless it is the really deep sounding one.....
I wish I had the confidence in the industry to tell you, but I cannot help thinking that there are some on this board who would delight in making my life more miserable because I dare to speak out against what you obviously enjoy doing.
On the subject of how worthwhile the flights are which pass over L&L's house (which his neighbours say is getting worse over the years), maybe the recession will have a beneficial effect (in terms of noise, because fewer people will splash out to go by air). Presumably, with the economy in tatters, every private helicopter flying must be doing something pretty worthwhile or carrying someone pretty important?
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If 2-5 aircraft a day is norm and that is acceptable, then I would suggest that when you're getting 20 a day, this is because Heathrow has directed the traffic that way for reasons already explained. This indicates that, unless ATC directs otherwise, the pilots are taking a variety of routes.
I still maintain that the best way of dealing with the problem is one of mind over matter. For example, I used to have the screaming ab-dabs if I saw even a money spider. However, I realised that my fear of spiders was almost ruining my life so I took steps to deal with it. I still don't like spiders but I can look at photos of them, tolerate being in the same room as one and even, with my super spider catcher, catch one and put it outside.
I saw it as my problem and dealt with it.
Alternatively, as TotD suggests, you could get up on the roof
Cheers
Whirls
I still maintain that the best way of dealing with the problem is one of mind over matter. For example, I used to have the screaming ab-dabs if I saw even a money spider. However, I realised that my fear of spiders was almost ruining my life so I took steps to deal with it. I still don't like spiders but I can look at photos of them, tolerate being in the same room as one and even, with my super spider catcher, catch one and put it outside.
I saw it as my problem and dealt with it.
Alternatively, as TotD suggests, you could get up on the roof
Cheers
Whirls
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Great pic - that colour scheme brings back memories! (on the Hawk as well as the barn!). I was going to post a different picture of the most-used turning point in North Wales but mine's not as good as yours!
TOTD
Great pic - that colour scheme brings back memories! (on the Hawk as well as the barn!). I was going to post a different picture of the most-used turning point in North Wales but mine's not as good as yours!
TOTD
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I love the suggestion that helicopter training should be conducted over water. It would add a whole new dimension and complexity to hover/ hover taxy practice! Bigger barf bags to cope with air and sea sickness?!
These people are extremists.
I bet they are all fairly elderly. As you get older, minor irritations can become obsessions. I bet the person who runs this silly website has devoted his life to it and it will get him precisely nowhere.
'I remember Fred - he was that nutter who jumped up and down shaking his fist every time a helicopter flew over.'
I think I would like to be remembered for doing something useful.
Meals on Wheels and outpatient volunteers are always short of drivers. Much better than sitting at home all day with the window open behaving like a crusty old f@rt whener we fly over.
I have operated my machine for nearly 4 years in and out of my home. I have done over 600 hrs without a complaint. In fact, quite the opposite. I have raised lots of money for the Air Ambulance etc. by offering free raffle-prize rides.
Helicopters are noisy - we all need to consider our neighbours and offer them the occasional ride. It works a treat for me.
JB
These people are extremists.
I bet they are all fairly elderly. As you get older, minor irritations can become obsessions. I bet the person who runs this silly website has devoted his life to it and it will get him precisely nowhere.
'I remember Fred - he was that nutter who jumped up and down shaking his fist every time a helicopter flew over.'
I think I would like to be remembered for doing something useful.
Meals on Wheels and outpatient volunteers are always short of drivers. Much better than sitting at home all day with the window open behaving like a crusty old f@rt whener we fly over.
I have operated my machine for nearly 4 years in and out of my home. I have done over 600 hrs without a complaint. In fact, quite the opposite. I have raised lots of money for the Air Ambulance etc. by offering free raffle-prize rides.
Helicopters are noisy - we all need to consider our neighbours and offer them the occasional ride. It works a treat for me.
JB
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There has been 2 today, quite a good day, I still heard them, but strangely they made me smile and now I am missing them!
But like I have said, it is not 2 or 5 that bother me, it is when it gets to 20 it gets too much. Really hard to ignore them when the windows are open or you are outside.
But, the next one I see will probably get a cheery wave rather than a manic hand gesture Unless it is the really deep sounding one.....
But like I have said, it is not 2 or 5 that bother me, it is when it gets to 20 it gets too much. Really hard to ignore them when the windows are open or you are outside.
But, the next one I see will probably get a cheery wave rather than a manic hand gesture Unless it is the really deep sounding one.....
I get hacked off when a helicopter flies overhead, but only because I'm not up there flying it! Seriously, have a ride in a helicopter. If I wasn't stuck out in Abu Dhabi I'd be delighted to offer you a ride, preferably from your garden. It's an experience which melts the hardest attitude.
Most of the helicopters I fly are piston-engined and surprisingly quiet - I measure the effect I'm having by the reaction of farm animals, which I try not to scare. Horses in particular are easily startled and I do my best not to upset them when I land at the many farms and isolated houses I visit when I'm in Britain.
My little civilian helicopters are nothing compared to the thunderous noise (which I love, but others don't) of military helis. And city dwellers who dislike long periods of police aircraft overhead have a point - as do the police, who are usually doing something which demands a hover or a low orbit for the public good.
I can only implore you to have a trial lesson. Then you'll associate the sound of a heli overhead with a happy memory.
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I have the answer. It is purely scientific, just not proven yet. As we know the helicopter produces high and low frequencies. Now if these unfortunate soul's are being diven mad by such divine aircraft like the helicopter, which is obviously causing a disturbance in the mind by the high or low frequencies.
We should not be upset with these people, who have a slight disability that they are being driven mad.
Maybe the goverment could offer free CAT scans to the poor people who could have this abnormality, and once found could offer some kind of head gear to wear. Maybe a bicycle helmet, I bet that thick padding would stop those nasty frequencies or even better yet maybe a motorcycle helmet.
Or if you can't afford to buy the head gear, the cheaper option could be a wet towel wrapped around ones head with two pencil's up one's nose, now that would probably work.
Now in all seriousness people complain about noise from airports, if they bought a property near an airport after the airport was built then why should you complain. If however you bought that property or built it before the airport came then you have a right to complain.
Most low level helicopters are air ambulance that are saving lives!
police helicopters which are chasing the bad guys, so they don't steal your car !
Civilian pilots should not be low level, unless taking off and landing, within the law.
Maybe I will offer this advice on there website, one wet towel and two pencils
We should not be upset with these people, who have a slight disability that they are being driven mad.
Maybe the goverment could offer free CAT scans to the poor people who could have this abnormality, and once found could offer some kind of head gear to wear. Maybe a bicycle helmet, I bet that thick padding would stop those nasty frequencies or even better yet maybe a motorcycle helmet.
Or if you can't afford to buy the head gear, the cheaper option could be a wet towel wrapped around ones head with two pencil's up one's nose, now that would probably work.
Now in all seriousness people complain about noise from airports, if they bought a property near an airport after the airport was built then why should you complain. If however you bought that property or built it before the airport came then you have a right to complain.
Most low level helicopters are air ambulance that are saving lives!
police helicopters which are chasing the bad guys, so they don't steal your car !
Civilian pilots should not be low level, unless taking off and landing, within the law.
Maybe I will offer this advice on there website, one wet towel and two pencils
