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Old 31st Jan 2008, 17:36
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Tet - while the attrition rate should be zero it is not possible for the risk to be zero, especially for the poor old winchman who gets to do the really dodgy stuff.

There is a growing risk averse culture in the UK highlighted by the Community Police Officers who were praised by their boss for not risking their lives by jumping into a pond and trying to save a lad who subsequently drowned.

He or someone similar in command stated that there was no reason to risk one's life to save another - nice sentiments

Someone thought my mates mountain exploit was somewhat out of the ordinary daily jungle since he got an AFC for it - I have to wholeheartedly agree but he had recently completed several equally demanding rescues with only a cup of tea as a reward on his return.
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Old 1st Feb 2008, 06:35
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Crab from the UK

finally - someone who appreciates risk takers
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Crab - I do get it. All that next paragraph.....me too.

One final comment before Riadbec destroys the thread....I can't imagine the SOP for NVG's including line creeping in cloud using them as defacto x-ray vision. Well done and well done, to your colleague who pulled it off....condolences to the families of the next one/s who don't quite.

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Old 1st Feb 2008, 09:55
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Perhaps the mods should make riadbec's wish to be de-registered a reality. What exactly do you have to offer this forum, anyway?

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Old 1st Feb 2008, 10:15
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Moderator, please close this down, riadbec is begging you with all his daft comments. What a cowboy, just what the industry needs.
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With reference to the Ferry resue last evening

This thread, despite having some really juvenile, and rediculous emotion, does within it contain some serious comment on the role of SAR crews, and the associated risks that are ALWAYS involved in a SAR mission. Perhaps some of the commentators should read the post on the SAR work accomplished last night in the UK.

Lets be real, in a day VFR training winch sortie on an airfield, with a nice wind in favourable direction, whilst in a Bell 412 maintaining an OGE hover recovering the crewmen, what would happen if one engine fails? Is conducting that training therefore slightly risky? A B412 does not have OGE OEI capability with much of a payload, hence therefore the only way to eliminate that risk would be to not use that type of acft for the job at all. Yet, as many of us know, the B412 is an excellent SAR platform.

On to another role. Most offshore pilots depart a heli deck with a full load, using tried and practiced procedures whilst still knowing that with an engine failure, the outcome will be an OEI fly away, or possibly a controlled ditching, all depending on the ambient conditions at the time and complying with the AFM performance charts.

Group A performance is not possible on most rigs as they are not built to the size required of an aircraft carrier! So tomorrow will we take passengers to an oil rig in a Bell 212, or await that aircrafts replacement with a Super Puma?

Training, the skill level of the crews, and the ability to know when you CAN NOT do a task is what I have always known SAR to be all about.
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