News Helos Collide in Arizona
What a terrible waste of lives.
Following in Bokkenrijder's footsteps, I'm sure this echoes the feelings of many of us these days... (From Simon & Garfunkel's Only Living Boy in New York).
Following in Bokkenrijder's footsteps, I'm sure this echoes the feelings of many of us these days... (From Simon & Garfunkel's Only Living Boy in New York).
I get the news I need on the weather report - I gather all the news I need on the weather report
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Video clip, Very Sad R.I.P
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1
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condolences to those left behind......
Maybe now some of us will realise why,
A.) TRA`s are put in place at the earliest opportunities at major incidents
B.) The CAA may be extremely harsh in certain areas but its a sobering thought that at least something like this scenario is less likely to happen in the uk due to their regs(5/6 news helo`s chasing the best image of a vehicle pursuit).
Putting that aside though RIP
Maybe now some of us will realise why,
A.) TRA`s are put in place at the earliest opportunities at major incidents
B.) The CAA may be extremely harsh in certain areas but its a sobering thought that at least something like this scenario is less likely to happen in the uk due to their regs(5/6 news helo`s chasing the best image of a vehicle pursuit).
Putting that aside though RIP
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From the links above.
A sad day, RIP guys.
A horrifying scene, as 2 news helicopters crash in mid-air while covering a police pursuit in uptown Phoenix. Four men, longtime journalists and pilots died in that crash above Steel Indian School Park.
Killed on board the KTVK helicopter were pilot Scott Bowerbank and photographer Jim Cox, the station reported.
On board the KNXV aircraft were reporter-pilot Craig Smith and photographer Rick Krolak, the station reported.
On board the KNXV aircraft were reporter-pilot Craig Smith and photographer Rick Krolak, the station reported.
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" The police chief said the suspect will likely face criminal charges for the deaths in the helicopter crash."
I cant't believe it! Isn't the pilot the final authority regarding all aspects of flight due to the FAA AIM?
Is a clebrity also responsible if a paparazzi gets hurt while trying to get a picture?
I cant't believe it! Isn't the pilot the final authority regarding all aspects of flight due to the FAA AIM?
Is a clebrity also responsible if a paparazzi gets hurt while trying to get a picture?
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@ (JetRanger) 214
do you think he was thinking about ratings while watching his colleagues spiral to the ground?
Who cares about the people involved, as long as you arrive first on the scene and can make a quick buck getting the 'exclusive and dramatic footage' on the 6 'o clock news.
Let's honest, it's the ONLY purpose that those helicopters are flying through the sky in the first place. Filming a cop writing out a parking ticket is boring. Filming blood, explosions, violence, death and destruction SELLS! That's the purpose, not news.
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214,
I think your stance is a bit difficult to justify, given that all the media outlets with ANY footage seem to have been racing to be first with the news. If some one had decided not to broadcast out of a feeling of decency or whatever, then your view might be backed by some evidence.
Guys RIP.
I think your stance is a bit difficult to justify, given that all the media outlets with ANY footage seem to have been racing to be first with the news. If some one had decided not to broadcast out of a feeling of decency or whatever, then your view might be backed by some evidence.
Guys RIP.
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I had no idea most of these guys actually report the news as well as fly.
Why? Why don't they have a reporter?
Do people not see that this type of thing has been waiting to happen under that workload? Its just like driving while talking on the cell phone.
My thoughts are very much with the families.
Why? Why don't they have a reporter?
Do people not see that this type of thing has been waiting to happen under that workload? Its just like driving while talking on the cell phone.
My thoughts are very much with the families.
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Thanks for that vital - and astounding - information. So, no one is trying to save money here by having a dedicated reporter in the machine?
TwoOneFour
Yes - I'm sure that it did shock them but some of us on the outside are shocked that they were shocked. On the occasions (here in the UK) that I have seen footage of the news channels chasing each other across US cities, I have thought - those guys are both skilled and lucky. But something like this was always on the cards.
Yes, I am very sad that it happened and can only hope that the FAA regulates more closely, as the corporate demand has led to these deaths. Free enterprise is a wonderful thing but ...
Undoubtedly, also, the personal challenge is immense and rewarding on many levels but ...
the pilot serves a dual role, that of pilot and that of live to air reporter
TwoOneFour
If you'd bothered to follow the events, rather than volunteering your 'expertise' on journalism, you'd have seen for yourself how much the accident shocked not only those on the stations affected, but those on the 'rival' helos' stations.
Yes, I am very sad that it happened and can only hope that the FAA regulates more closely, as the corporate demand has led to these deaths. Free enterprise is a wonderful thing but ...
Undoubtedly, also, the personal challenge is immense and rewarding on many levels but ...
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Hello,
Why?......
Primary ..cause weight..... !
Those small choppers are very sensible regard fuel consumption if you have weight....
Less weight is more flying time between refueling ....
And also ..after all ...the cost
Regards.
Why? Why don't they have a reporter?
Primary ..cause weight..... !
Those small choppers are very sensible regard fuel consumption if you have weight....
Less weight is more flying time between refueling ....
And also ..after all ...the cost
Regards.
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I'm sure that friends and colleagues of those tragically killed will read this forum, so please let the dust settle a little and be sensitive with your comments guys.
Condolences to friends and families.
Condolences to friends and families.
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Why?......
Primary ..cause weight..... !
Those small choppers are very sensible regard fuel consumption if you have weight....
Less weight is more flying time between refueling ....
And also ..after all ...the cost
Primary ..cause weight..... !
Those small choppers are very sensible regard fuel consumption if you have weight....
Less weight is more flying time between refueling ....
And also ..after all ...the cost
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Risking all in an effort to save lives I can understand.
Risking all for the latest scoop (and what is so special about another car theft) is silly.
To hear the casualties being described as "warriors on the frontline of newsgathering" sounds positively disturbed. To die in a stupid and preventable accident does not make one a hero, sad though it is.
Methinks reassessing priorities might be called for?
Risking all for the latest scoop (and what is so special about another car theft) is silly.
To hear the casualties being described as "warriors on the frontline of newsgathering" sounds positively disturbed. To die in a stupid and preventable accident does not make one a hero, sad though it is.
Methinks reassessing priorities might be called for?
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'There's a strict dividing line between the duty of pilot and cameraman on board a news chopper - the cameraman knows that the pilot has full authority over air safety, and doesn't tell the pilot what to do: he just takes whatever pictures he can from the vantage point available'
Leaving dedicated talent (the term is used loosely) on the ground and elevating the pilot to the role of on-air personality has blurred the lines between what is good for the aircraft and what is good for the station. Pilots don goofy hats; talk into the camera; even take their dog onboard (Molly the Flying Dog, I kid you not). You have to ask yourself: who's flying the aircraft?
No disrespect intended to anyone involved.
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Because of weight, they have no reporters..?
What? AS350B2's and no space or performance for extra reporter. That is not true. Only reason must be extra costs. That is the reason for many safety problems. We don't have to accept that in our job.
My deepest condolences to the families involved.
Hostile.
What? AS350B2's and no space or performance for extra reporter. That is not true. Only reason must be extra costs. That is the reason for many safety problems. We don't have to accept that in our job.
My deepest condolences to the families involved.
Hostile.
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I find it incredible that a pilot would be asked to double up to do anything except fly the bird. Ludicrous.
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or deliver weapons, or perform a scout mission, or pipeline patrol, or search for victims, or log, or...
I find it incredible that a pilot would be asked to double up to do anything except fly the bird. Ludicrous.
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or deliver weapons, or perform a scout mission, or pipeline patrol, or search for victims, or log, or...