Glastonbury Festival -- (And a cautionary tale!)
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I’ve read the post with interest and although we seem to have digressed onto previous ops at Glastonbury – I do feel that I should at least have my say…
In Finals09 post he says the following:
‘We were then granted a clearance to restriction in flying regulations for this area by the Avon & Somerset ASU Chief Pilot which stated:’
'You are authorised to act on behalf of Avon & Somerset constabulary to grant entry clearances to visiting aircraft to enter the restriction in flying regulations area, subject to the following:
PPR authority is for your site only at Clover Hill Farm'
So, the Glastonbury Heliport Operator was obliged to inform the local Constabulary of the unauthorized movement.
The pilot who entered the TRA without permission, pleaded guilty.
I have worked with Mr. Ford and Mr. Ward in the past and will continue to in the future. My personal opinion is that they both operate to the highest standard (particularly Mr. Ward – no offence James) and would suggest that even if they had spoken with the pilot on the day – the outcome would have been the same.
In answer to the original question – Glastonbury, in my experience is very straight forward and if you have any questions, contact James Ford!
I’m not seeking to criticize anyone who has posted on this thread, but Flying Lawyer – I do think ‘Utter Contempt’ is a bit out of character for you?
XD
In Finals09 post he says the following:
‘We were then granted a clearance to restriction in flying regulations for this area by the Avon & Somerset ASU Chief Pilot which stated:’
'You are authorised to act on behalf of Avon & Somerset constabulary to grant entry clearances to visiting aircraft to enter the restriction in flying regulations area, subject to the following:
PPR authority is for your site only at Clover Hill Farm'
So, the Glastonbury Heliport Operator was obliged to inform the local Constabulary of the unauthorized movement.
The pilot who entered the TRA without permission, pleaded guilty.
I have worked with Mr. Ford and Mr. Ward in the past and will continue to in the future. My personal opinion is that they both operate to the highest standard (particularly Mr. Ward – no offence James) and would suggest that even if they had spoken with the pilot on the day – the outcome would have been the same.
In answer to the original question – Glastonbury, in my experience is very straight forward and if you have any questions, contact James Ford!
I’m not seeking to criticize anyone who has posted on this thread, but Flying Lawyer – I do think ‘Utter Contempt’ is a bit out of character for you?
XD
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Being Devil's Advocate, is it not the case that it is not the job, right or even requirement of an aerodrome authority to seek out miscreants to it's airspace!?
We had a helicopter land in the LCTR between Waltham and Ascot once... primary only with no clearance. I had a heliopter on freq and he said it flew fairly close beneath him (not bad as my helicopter was on "a not above 1000ft" clearance!)
Anyway - I just reported the facts..... Should I have made sure the infringer didn't depart the next day? (as it did - ironically, I asked a transit if there was a heli on the ground and he said no)
As an aside, I know James and Tudor professionally and socially, and find them both thoroughly good chaps. (along with many other fine people contributing here)
Nothing is as black and white as it seems.
As for the security issue: No amount of line drawing on the quarter mil will actually stop an infringer..... but it does mean that there are extra sensitivities involved.
We had a helicopter land in the LCTR between Waltham and Ascot once... primary only with no clearance. I had a heliopter on freq and he said it flew fairly close beneath him (not bad as my helicopter was on "a not above 1000ft" clearance!)
Anyway - I just reported the facts..... Should I have made sure the infringer didn't depart the next day? (as it did - ironically, I asked a transit if there was a heli on the ground and he said no)
As an aside, I know James and Tudor professionally and socially, and find them both thoroughly good chaps. (along with many other fine people contributing here)
Nothing is as black and white as it seems.
As for the security issue: No amount of line drawing on the quarter mil will actually stop an infringer..... but it does mean that there are extra sensitivities involved.
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AlanM,
I think that your post was more balanced than mine!
James and Tudor are both good chaps – well said!
Maybe we should ask the ‘Man of the Moment’ SkyNews1 for his views???
He can’t put a foot wrong at the moment!
What say you??
XD
I think that your post was more balanced than mine!
James and Tudor are both good chaps – well said!
Maybe we should ask the ‘Man of the Moment’ SkyNews1 for his views???
He can’t put a foot wrong at the moment!
What say you??
XD
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I couldn’t possibly comment – nor would I want to!
Those three are always telling us how great they are! Now, we had better move on before Heliport comes online and tells us off!
All the best
Xavier Dosh
Those three are always telling us how great they are! Now, we had better move on before Heliport comes online and tells us off!
All the best
Xavier Dosh
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Am I correct in assuming that even if contacted, Finals09 could not have given the pilot permission to do what he did even if he wanted to. His authority it seems was:
"You are authorised to act on behalf of Avon & Somerset constabulary to grant entry clearances to visiting aircraft to enter the restriction in flying regulations area, subject to the following:
PPR authority is for your site only at Clover Hill Farm."
"You are authorised to act on behalf of Avon & Somerset constabulary to grant entry clearances to visiting aircraft to enter the restriction in flying regulations area, subject to the following:
PPR authority is for your site only at Clover Hill Farm."
Now, back to prisons...............................
Landing at Glastonbury 2007
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Polo Aviation are running the Glastonbury Heliport and are allowed to grant entry clearances to the heliport only. All other requests are to be IAW AIC 45/2007 (Mauve 226).
