JAA IR Courses (including Converting FAA IR to JAA IR (Merged)
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Silly spat
TalkTalk: Yup:
"genuine UK JAA easa IR" - is a tongue in cheek referance to the UKCAA's domination of the structure of this rating..
"actually know what they are doing......" - hard to dispute I'd have thought....
(unless you know different - you must have an axe to grind?)
I was mostly featuring the advantage of the weak pound....
"genuine UK JAA easa IR" - is a tongue in cheek referance to the UKCAA's domination of the structure of this rating..
"actually know what they are doing......" - hard to dispute I'd have thought....
(unless you know different - you must have an axe to grind?)
I was mostly featuring the advantage of the weak pound....
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Dan filey
You've made vague critical comments about Helicopter Services a few times. It's clear from a previous post that you didn't like Leon Smith.
Did you actually do your IR course there?
If not, where did you do yours? (Assuming you have an IR.)
As you said in a thread about PPL courses: "You ask three students their views of the same flight school and you get three different replies - good, bad or indifferent!."
There's truth in that, but FWIW, Helicopter Services has consistently been the most recommended school for IR courses in this forum for many years.
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You've made vague critical comments about Helicopter Services a few times. It's clear from a previous post that you didn't like Leon Smith.
Did you actually do your IR course there?
If not, where did you do yours? (Assuming you have an IR.)
As you said in a thread about PPL courses: "You ask three students their views of the same flight school and you get three different replies - good, bad or indifferent!."
There's truth in that, but FWIW, Helicopter Services has consistently been the most recommended school for IR courses in this forum for many years.
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Originally Posted by AnFI
"actually know what they are doing......" - hard to dispute I'd have thought....
(unless you know different - you must have an axe to grind?)
(unless you know different - you must have an axe to grind?)
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Can anyone tell me if I have to be current on my FAA IR to covert it to a JAA IR?
The licence does not expire; not being current only prevents me from acting as a PIC in IMC and doesn't have anything to to with the conversion, right?
But on the other hand, for my CPL conversion I had to be current as well....
Thanks for the help!
No-ID
The licence does not expire; not being current only prevents me from acting as a PIC in IMC and doesn't have anything to to with the conversion, right?
But on the other hand, for my CPL conversion I had to be current as well....
Thanks for the help!
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From LASORS 2008 Section E Page 10
So, yes, you do have to be current unless:
IR Conversion Requirements
These arrangements will provide a route to JAR-FCL IR(H) qualification for the following holders of a current and valid* IR issued in accordance with ICAO Annex 1:
ICAO IR (H) holder to JAR-FCL IR (H)
ICAO IR (A) holder to JAR-FCL IR (H)
JAR-FCL IR (A) holder to JAR-FCL IR (H)
* The holder of an ICAO IR(H)/(A) or JAR-IR(A) that is not current and valid will be required to attend an approved FTO and complete a modular course of IR(H) flying training.
These arrangements will provide a route to JAR-FCL IR(H) qualification for the following holders of a current and valid* IR issued in accordance with ICAO Annex 1:
ICAO IR (H) holder to JAR-FCL IR (H)
ICAO IR (A) holder to JAR-FCL IR (H)
JAR-FCL IR (A) holder to JAR-FCL IR (H)
* The holder of an ICAO IR(H)/(A) or JAR-IR(A) that is not current and valid will be required to attend an approved FTO and complete a modular course of IR(H) flying training.
If during the course the Head of Training is prepared to state in writing that completion of the FULL course is unwarranted and recommends a reduction, PLD will give the recommendation consideration.
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* The holder of an ICAO IR(H)/(A) or JAR-IR(A) that is not current and valid will be required to attend an approved FTO and complete a modular course of IR(H) flying training.
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You have to be current, or do the full IR(H) course.
Friend of mine wasn't current, did the ICAO conversion, did get the IR(H) issued by the UK CAA because he wasn't current on his FAA. Since he did his IR training in Denmark he decided to change the country of issue to Denmark who did then issue his IR(H) ?!
But so the UK CAA might give you a problem.
Friend of mine wasn't current, did the ICAO conversion, did get the IR(H) issued by the UK CAA because he wasn't current on his FAA. Since he did his IR training in Denmark he decided to change the country of issue to Denmark who did then issue his IR(H) ?!
But so the UK CAA might give you a problem.
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Allright. That's it... IR (H) in Europe. Any input is a valuable input!!
Hello PPRuNers...
I am stumbling hard into my 30's now, and I've been sitting on a JAA CPL (H) for quite some time. I've been flying a whole lot more than I've been logging, let me tell you. Currently sitting on TR's for R44 and AS350, I believe I will give this part of the game up, plain and simple, and at least
get my IR (H) Theory done. Don't have enough hours for that game either,
really, but it'll be a last resort kind of thing... People have gotten lucky before, as long as they had their ATPL (H) Theory done.
So, anyone have a good input on a good place to read IR in Europe? You see, I started an internet based course in Norway, and the whole deal was truly crap, in relation to all the theory I've read earlier, in the US and in Sweden, these guys are in it for the money, and I mean ONLY the money, because you are really and truly on your own once you start. I'm somewhat motivated after these years, but I'm not THAT motivated...
So, just out of curiosity... What would you, experienced as well as non-experienced guys, recommend?
I am stumbling hard into my 30's now, and I've been sitting on a JAA CPL (H) for quite some time. I've been flying a whole lot more than I've been logging, let me tell you. Currently sitting on TR's for R44 and AS350, I believe I will give this part of the game up, plain and simple, and at least
get my IR (H) Theory done. Don't have enough hours for that game either,
really, but it'll be a last resort kind of thing... People have gotten lucky before, as long as they had their ATPL (H) Theory done.
So, anyone have a good input on a good place to read IR in Europe? You see, I started an internet based course in Norway, and the whole deal was truly crap, in relation to all the theory I've read earlier, in the US and in Sweden, these guys are in it for the money, and I mean ONLY the money, because you are really and truly on your own once you start. I'm somewhat motivated after these years, but I'm not THAT motivated...
So, just out of curiosity... What would you, experienced as well as non-experienced guys, recommend?
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Out of curiosity, where were you doing your IR theory in Norway? PM if you'd prefer not to post it in public...
I believe the only school offering the theory in the UK is CAPT (Phil Croucher's outfit). Last I heard, they were approved for IR-only theory (i.e. IR without the rest of the ATPL course). Some flight schools offering the course in the UK are FAST, Helicopter Services, Severn, and Sloane (might not be running yet); cost for the flying bit ranges from £42k to £50k, more if you need extra hours, retests, etc.
I'm not aware of anyone getting their flying training sponsored, regardless of theory credits, but stranger things have happened. I'd suggest that given the demand right now and the number of already-qualified pilots floating around, the outlook isn't terribly good for someone who needs £40k+ worth of additional training before they become employable, but you might be lucky.
I believe the only school offering the theory in the UK is CAPT (Phil Croucher's outfit). Last I heard, they were approved for IR-only theory (i.e. IR without the rest of the ATPL course). Some flight schools offering the course in the UK are FAST, Helicopter Services, Severn, and Sloane (might not be running yet); cost for the flying bit ranges from £42k to £50k, more if you need extra hours, retests, etc.
I'm not aware of anyone getting their flying training sponsored, regardless of theory credits, but stranger things have happened. I'd suggest that given the demand right now and the number of already-qualified pilots floating around, the outlook isn't terribly good for someone who needs £40k+ worth of additional training before they become employable, but you might be lucky.
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IR exams if you don't have ATPL theory and 15 hours instructions plus test.
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...or, to look at it another way, at least 15 hours instruction. I've heard this quoted as 10 hours sim plus 5 hours flight. I guess you'd still need to do the type rating as well (assuming you don't already have it), so add another 5 or 8 hours flight time (depending on whether you have a twin rating already or not). However, many people find the JAA IR course to be so different from the FAA one, that they end up needing rather more than minimums to get up to test standard.
Currently, CAPT is the only school I'm aware of doing IR(H)-only exams (i.e. not as part of an ATPL course).
Currently, CAPT is the only school I'm aware of doing IR(H)-only exams (i.e. not as part of an ATPL course).
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Bell 212 IR
All,
I,ve been trying to find a JAA FTO to conduct an IR course on the Bell 212. OAA, Inaer and Helisul all tried to no avail.
There must been an FTO in JAA land able to conduct this training.
PPruners help required.
Regards,
HP2.
I,ve been trying to find a JAA FTO to conduct an IR course on the Bell 212. OAA, Inaer and Helisul all tried to no avail.
There must been an FTO in JAA land able to conduct this training.
PPruners help required.
Regards,
HP2.
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IR Schools in Europe
Hey together,
searching for a school offering IR in dependence on JAR in Europe.
Prefering Singel Pilot, Multiengine.
Beside Bristow Academy, Billund Air Service, Lgm Mannheim are there more schools?
Anyone there with some commendations?
searching for a school offering IR in dependence on JAR in Europe.
Prefering Singel Pilot, Multiengine.
Beside Bristow Academy, Billund Air Service, Lgm Mannheim are there more schools?
Anyone there with some commendations?
Germany:
LGM, Lifeflight, HTM, Eurocopter Germany
UK:
Bond, Bristow, Veritair, Fast helicopters
Spain:
FAASA, Intercopters
Norway:
EHC
For quality I'd go for Bond, moneywise...FAASA.
I took the cheapest offer I got in Germany.
LGM, Lifeflight, HTM, Eurocopter Germany
UK:
Bond, Bristow, Veritair, Fast helicopters
Spain:
FAASA, Intercopters
Norway:
EHC
For quality I'd go for Bond, moneywise...FAASA.
I took the cheapest offer I got in Germany.