Helicentre Aviation
You have to chuckle when you look at the photos of the staff, and the acountable manager is dressed as an astronaut! (Apologies, if he was an astronaut.....
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Out of all those 21 members, I understand only 10 of them actually still work there.
It seems they just won't remove people when they leave, It obviously looks better for them if they have lots of staff.
The owner is not an Astrronaught no.
It seems they just won't remove people when they leave, It obviously looks better for them if they have lots of staff.
The owner is not an Astrronaught no.
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"In the 18 months we've also had pilots go to the North Sea, South of France, the Seychelles, Canada, and the Caribbean. Seems there are plenty of jobs to progress onto without an IR if you've got the hours and the experience"
So like I said in the last thread before it got deleted, there are limited positions in the UK that I don't believe will sustain the amount of students coming through and will in the future through the loan scheme.
So like I said in the last thread before it got deleted, there are limited positions in the UK that I don't believe will sustain the amount of students coming through and will in the future through the loan scheme.
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Out of all those 21 members, I understand only 10 of them actually still work there.
It seems they just won't remove people when they leave, It obviously looks better for them if they have lots of staff.
It seems they just won't remove people when they leave, It obviously looks better for them if they have lots of staff.
Foureyedflyer, apologies, it was not intentional - there are actually more instructors and staff now than what was shown, the page just hadn't been updated for a while. It's with web developers so should be correct later today. You're right the chairman is not an astronaut but a down to earth chap with a sense of humour
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exactly right ananke. I just hope helicentre is telling everyone before they pay any money that even after getting their instructing hours over 1000, they will highly likely have to go abroad or have a shot at the north sea. those are the only feasible options i see. without those instructing hours it would be even tougher.
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I believe I was called. That's what I love a company attempting to defend itself on a rumour network, with a couple of new registered joiners backing up their company or people with a financial interest in a company. Fact is if you do not gave an IR you are unable to go offshore, I do not think that this company in question offers IR courses. Also the career prospects of what has been talked about by some students is years old of those people progressing to the next stage. I was quite happy leaving this alone, as in my previous post which was deleted and said I was bored now.
If the moderators would like to step in and quite simply see how people are trying to market themselves every chance they get, using new registration to promote their own business interests.
You do not see any other operator abusing this forum in this way.
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If the moderators would like to step in and quite simply see how people are trying to market themselves every chance they get, using new registration to promote their own business interests.
You do not see any other operator abusing this forum in this way.
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And another thing I find it highly entertaining how a leading professional training organization wishes to get bantering away on a rumour network. I believe for many years people have talked about bristow, bonds, chc , police and hems, and I do not see the senior management of Bristow getting involved in a good old conversation on a rumour network, wish says leaps and bounds about the operation you are trying to defend and at the same time get a bit of marketing in at the same time
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There is no doubt that these guys sell, but then that’s probably smart isn’t it?? Are they really mis-representing themselves?I’m not so sure they are.Aren’t they simply suggesting come here get a licence, then come instructing and build your hours and the rest is up to you.It’s a sausage factory but then given the dynamics of the industry doesn’t this company just fill an obvious need…. After all isn't that one of the principle headline in any commercial job advert...hours ??
These guys have managed to build recent and on-going business off a new type (the G2) and better for them with leased machines from an importer.They recognised the Cabri G2 as a way forward arguably 2 years before the rest of the training organisations and now they recognise that funding is a barrier, and always has been, but have identified some liquidity and are breaking into it via the educational element.
It doesn't matter if its real or doing a good thing for future pilots... wake up its doing good things for their own P&L!
The self-fuelling instruction and the little pipeline contract they have allied to the scholarship programs seem to be obvious business and actually I’m a little surprised in mid-2014 no other school is copying the model because there don’t seem huge barriers to do so.
Are the pilots getting rich?Of course not, even the guy doing 500hrs per year at £35 per hour is still just existing but then one suspects he was always more interested in the 500hrs in his log book than the £17500 yearly pay – at least at this stage in his life.
The guy making the real money is the one doing all the examining… that is really nice business.
These guys have managed to build recent and on-going business off a new type (the G2) and better for them with leased machines from an importer.They recognised the Cabri G2 as a way forward arguably 2 years before the rest of the training organisations and now they recognise that funding is a barrier, and always has been, but have identified some liquidity and are breaking into it via the educational element.
It doesn't matter if its real or doing a good thing for future pilots... wake up its doing good things for their own P&L!
The self-fuelling instruction and the little pipeline contract they have allied to the scholarship programs seem to be obvious business and actually I’m a little surprised in mid-2014 no other school is copying the model because there don’t seem huge barriers to do so.
Are the pilots getting rich?Of course not, even the guy doing 500hrs per year at £35 per hour is still just existing but then one suspects he was always more interested in the 500hrs in his log book than the £17500 yearly pay – at least at this stage in his life.
The guy making the real money is the one doing all the examining… that is really nice business.
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Helicentre Aviation
I have recently spoken to any current students and ex instructors... a lot of them are disappointed with false promises and are fed up of being over charged for the tiniest things.
Recently a thread got deleted because the truth was coming out which proves their points.
Don't believe all of the propaganda you see on here because they are paid advertisers.
Recently a thread got deleted because the truth was coming out which proves their points.
Don't believe all of the propaganda you see on here because they are paid advertisers.
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We don't need the constant reminder. Really, we don't.
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Pretty much every advertising these days tries to sell some inflated dream or experience rather than just the product itself.
Education is no exception - you only have to travel on the tube or watch the TV to see some advert from a university\college\training institution etc. trying to convince you that a degree\qualification\course etc. in IT\business studies\law etc. will enable you to change to a more fulfilling\lucrative\exciting etc. career ...
That a helicopter training outfit should be following similar marketing tactics does not surprise me.
What is more telling is the number of helicopter training outfits which don't!
Matthew
Education is no exception - you only have to travel on the tube or watch the TV to see some advert from a university\college\training institution etc. trying to convince you that a degree\qualification\course etc. in IT\business studies\law etc. will enable you to change to a more fulfilling\lucrative\exciting etc. career ...
That a helicopter training outfit should be following similar marketing tactics does not surprise me.
What is more telling is the number of helicopter training outfits which don't!
Matthew
Chief Bottle Washer
Mods rarely give explanations for moderations, this is an oft discussed topic.
Nonetheless in this case an explanation was given twice, by two mods: Deleted threads. In your 3 months of posting here, you have deleted 10 posts and one thread and no-one saw a need for you to explain your deletions.
If you have any issue with moderation, the RoE of PPRuNe is for it to be discussed via PM.
Which part of the quote is he joking about
Quote:
You're right the chairman is not an astronaut but a down to earth chap, with a sense of humor
You're joking right?
Quote:
You're right the chairman is not an astronaut but a down to earth chap, with a sense of humor
You're joking right?
