London Battersea **!!&***!!!
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LCY is soon to be sold (Telegraph report, 18/09) so perhaps the new owners will look at additional ways of getting a return on the suggested £300m+ sale tag.
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Whilst Battersea is far from ideally located - it is there. Depending on traffic of course it is 20 - 30mins from the West End. It is very slick to land at and critically takes less than a minute from leaving the heli to getting in a car and departing. Normally to the door of your destination. And if you do have to wait, there's a nice lounge - usually to yourself.
Now compare that with the reality of your high speed rail link. How long will it take you to actually get on the train from the heliport? How private will the train be (assuming there's a signal at all) for the inevitable calls? And how far from your destination will it take you? And how will you travel the last leg?
I could go on. Battersea is vey expensive but at the end of the day it's a market economy. If they really are close to the planning movement limit who can blame them for upping fees? The only logical business approach.
The danger, I feel, is if they overcook it, and movements go down below the limits, public and the Council could say there is diminishing necessity and push movement limits down further. It is important to continue to prove how crucial it is for London to have a heliport by maintaining volume - and pushing for more.
If I owned Batteresa heliport and was motivated to safeguard and develop its future as a heliport, I'd be looking very hard at working up proposals to increase movements by introducing an element of recognition of the noise emission for various types. I should think one S76 is about as disturbing as four EC135s for example. To an extent this occurs with the fee scale but that doesn't help get more landings.
It would be interesting to know exactly what Battersea's annual movement limits actually are - any offers?
Whilst Battersea is far from ideally located - it is there. Depending on traffic of course it is 20 - 30mins from the West End. It is very slick to land at and critically takes less than a minute from leaving the heli to getting in a car and departing. Normally to the door of your destination. And if you do have to wait, there's a nice lounge - usually to yourself.
Now compare that with the reality of your high speed rail link. How long will it take you to actually get on the train from the heliport? How private will the train be (assuming there's a signal at all) for the inevitable calls? And how far from your destination will it take you? And how will you travel the last leg?
I could go on. Battersea is vey expensive but at the end of the day it's a market economy. If they really are close to the planning movement limit who can blame them for upping fees? The only logical business approach.
The danger, I feel, is if they overcook it, and movements go down below the limits, public and the Council could say there is diminishing necessity and push movement limits down further. It is important to continue to prove how crucial it is for London to have a heliport by maintaining volume - and pushing for more.
If I owned Batteresa heliport and was motivated to safeguard and develop its future as a heliport, I'd be looking very hard at working up proposals to increase movements by introducing an element of recognition of the noise emission for various types. I should think one S76 is about as disturbing as four EC135s for example. To an extent this occurs with the fee scale but that doesn't help get more landings.
It would be interesting to know exactly what Battersea's annual movement limits actually are - any offers?
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It would be interesting to know exactly what Battersea's annual movement limits actually are - any offers?
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So I have been shot down in flames. I am however flameproof.
The Olympics I was refering to were the Olympics which might be held after the forthcoming one....30 years time maybe!
The location of Battersea is wrong for the purpose and as I say again a heliport elsewhere (Dome) with a high speed rail link into the city would suffice. Those who decry getting into a train are very blinkered because your pasengers get into smelly taxis to take a slow smelly journey into the city. I for one would prefer a traffic free journey with a defined departure and arrival time.
The ball is on your side of the court now.
The Olympics I was refering to were the Olympics which might be held after the forthcoming one....30 years time maybe!
The location of Battersea is wrong for the purpose and as I say again a heliport elsewhere (Dome) with a high speed rail link into the city would suffice. Those who decry getting into a train are very blinkered because your pasengers get into smelly taxis to take a slow smelly journey into the city. I for one would prefer a traffic free journey with a defined departure and arrival time.
The ball is on your side of the court now.
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Hilico....the 'Bloke' is a Paddy from Cork Known as Dermoh!! And He doesn't have a heli, especially when all his mates...the rich ones, let him urilize theirs!
Besides he bought LCY for £14.5 mill 12 to 14 years ago and is on the verge of selling for £500 mill in the coming weeks!!!!!! God Bless the Irish!
Besides he bought LCY for £14.5 mill 12 to 14 years ago and is on the verge of selling for £500 mill in the coming weeks!!!!!! God Bless the Irish!
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Admitedly it was back in 2001, but when i was working as a motorcycle chauffer i did a lot of work for Deutsche Bank. The Boss used to fly his Gazzelle i think it was, into Vanguard on Westferry Road E14 and i would be waiting for him on my Honda ST1100, same as the police use. Into London Wall took about 15mins. So i have 2 questions,
1) Why hasn't anyone developed that site?
2) Has anyone used Chauffer Bikes?
If not why not. We take all the rich and famous any where they need to be. I even had to take an ITN man from London to just north of Doncaster when there was a train crash. Also did a lot in and out of Battersea with the ITN chopper running tapes and people.
So if your interested pm me for the link.
Also whatever happened to the barge on the thames by southwark bridge?
Just remembered seeing what looked like a twin squirell landing on top of the Diamond centre in Charterhouse ST EC1!
Any one know how that was allowed and why has it not devloped?
1) Why hasn't anyone developed that site?
2) Has anyone used Chauffer Bikes?
If not why not. We take all the rich and famous any where they need to be. I even had to take an ITN man from London to just north of Doncaster when there was a train crash. Also did a lot in and out of Battersea with the ITN chopper running tapes and people.
So if your interested pm me for the link.
Also whatever happened to the barge on the thames by southwark bridge?
Just remembered seeing what looked like a twin squirell landing on top of the Diamond centre in Charterhouse ST EC1!
Any one know how that was allowed and why has it not devloped?
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I must say this is typical of the UK and I despair over the state of my country. Principally I am of the view that this problem shouldnt exsist in the first place, the attitude of local and national government beggars belief.
Many clients of the London - New York Concorde service used it because it was the only facility that enabled them to conduct their business, not because of some frivolous desire to be the fastest. We must therefore assume that an individual or organisation who has gone to the vast expense of buying a Helicopter to get into London has done so having evaluated the decision and has not blown millions of dollars for a laugh. It would be crass of us not to realise this and I fear that those of us who reject the idea may have a rather short career in this industry! It therefore stands to reason that operators will swallow the charges, and pass it on to their customers in the products and services that they sell. After all you dont actually do less driving when the pump prices go up after every budget under some shady tree hugging guise, in the same way you wouldnt drive 10 times further if the theiving tax went away (in our dreams)... Ladies and Gentlemen welcome to Rip-off Britain.
I agree that there are sensibilities in the argument for restricted daily movements over increased charges but at the end of the day the fact remains, The facilities for Helicopters in our capital are inadequate; Therefore businesses based in the capital are disadvantaged as is the country as a whole on a world scale. Meanwhile our poloticians are looking at weather or not they can make the situation any worse. W
s!
Many clients of the London - New York Concorde service used it because it was the only facility that enabled them to conduct their business, not because of some frivolous desire to be the fastest. We must therefore assume that an individual or organisation who has gone to the vast expense of buying a Helicopter to get into London has done so having evaluated the decision and has not blown millions of dollars for a laugh. It would be crass of us not to realise this and I fear that those of us who reject the idea may have a rather short career in this industry! It therefore stands to reason that operators will swallow the charges, and pass it on to their customers in the products and services that they sell. After all you dont actually do less driving when the pump prices go up after every budget under some shady tree hugging guise, in the same way you wouldnt drive 10 times further if the theiving tax went away (in our dreams)... Ladies and Gentlemen welcome to Rip-off Britain.
I agree that there are sensibilities in the argument for restricted daily movements over increased charges but at the end of the day the fact remains, The facilities for Helicopters in our capital are inadequate; Therefore businesses based in the capital are disadvantaged as is the country as a whole on a world scale. Meanwhile our poloticians are looking at weather or not they can make the situation any worse. W
s!
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Don't forget the politics of envy. "I can't afford a chopper therefore why should he have one?" Or the politics of stupidity I bought my multi-million pound apartment right next door to one of the worlds' busiest and oldest heli-ports. Now I am going to complain like f about the noise and get it shut down." How terribly New Labour.
One of the most sickening sights around at the moment is the Mayor of Londons' ad on ITV London most nights exhorting people to get on their bikes, most of it was shot from a helicopter.
In Britain we no longer reward merit, we penalise it. To be able to afford a helicopter means one must have achieved a high level of success. That level of success comes with a huge personal price in terms of commitment to work and to other people (I'm thinking about employees here) Anybody in our business can show you that at a certain point helicopter travel actually becomes economical. At that stage the helo is not a frivolous plaything but a vital business tool.
I like Battersea, the staff are great, and I always enjoy my trips there (normally 3-6 a week) In certain wind conditions it can be a bit lively, but it is like a second home in some ways. However it is well past its' sell by date in terms of size and location. Let Ken shut it if he dares, we will just make a huge fuss for a better location. Lets face it some of our customers have huge political and financial clout, They have fought for their success he is a here today gone tomorrow politician. If he wants London to be a great capital city then he has to start thinking about facilities for business, not trying to get another 3 people off busses and onto bikes.
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Don't forget the politics of envy. "I can't afford a chopper therefore why should he have one?" Or the politics of stupidity I bought my multi-million pound apartment right next door to one of the worlds' busiest and oldest heli-ports. Now I am going to complain like f
about the noise and get it shut down." How terribly New Labour.One of the most sickening sights around at the moment is the Mayor of Londons' ad on ITV London most nights exhorting people to get on their bikes, most of it was shot from a helicopter.
In Britain we no longer reward merit, we penalise it. To be able to afford a helicopter means one must have achieved a high level of success. That level of success comes with a huge personal price in terms of commitment to work and to other people (I'm thinking about employees here) Anybody in our business can show you that at a certain point helicopter travel actually becomes economical. At that stage the helo is not a frivolous plaything but a vital business tool.
I like Battersea, the staff are great, and I always enjoy my trips there (normally 3-6 a week) In certain wind conditions it can be a bit lively, but it is like a second home in some ways. However it is well past its' sell by date in terms of size and location. Let Ken shut it if he dares, we will just make a huge fuss for a better location. Lets face it some of our customers have huge political and financial clout, They have fought for their success he is a here today gone tomorrow politician. If he wants London to be a great capital city then he has to start thinking about facilities for business, not trying to get another 3 people off busses and onto bikes.
VH
You can't expect a mayor who refuses planning permission for a de-salination plant to solve the water crisis to actually support helicopters, after all he is living in the 19th century isn't he.
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I would have thought you couldnt get much more successfull in business than Mr Al-Fayed, and he cant even get a Passport
. So i wouldnt rely too much on the political clout of the business men using the facillity to further the cause
! What is the situation with Vanguard? Is it like a private strip and 28 days or something? I would have thought Canary Wharf would be in need of Heliport if anywhere was
. So i wouldnt rely too much on the political clout of the business men using the facillity to further the cause ! What is the situation with Vanguard? Is it like a private strip and 28 days or something? I would have thought Canary Wharf would be in need of Heliport if anywhere was
