SAR: Search & Rescue Ops [Archive Copy]
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Ok:
A.where do they get Jockeys and grubbers from to man this ? and..
B.What type of cabs are they gonna use and where are they gonna get them from ?
How much experience do they have ?
A.where do they get Jockeys and grubbers from to man this ? and..
B.What type of cabs are they gonna use and where are they gonna get them from ?
How much experience do they have ?
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If I worked for Bristows I'd be happy right now, their pay is slightly less than CHC and there expenses are way below CHC...Don't know about holiday but CHC get 42 days /year where I think Bristows get 36??? CHC doesn't seem to be run but old dinasours like Bristows as well.....
It mentions Shetland and Stornaway, doesn't mention the southern bases....or is that just because it's the BBC scotland website??
It mentions Shetland and Stornaway, doesn't mention the southern bases....or is that just because it's the BBC scotland website??
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NorthSeaTiger to answer your questions:-
A. Ex Bristow guys already doing the job? Ex Jigsaw crews when they realise that there is a better deal on offer.
B. S61N, 332L2, 225, S92, EH101 your guess is as good as mine
CHC has loads of world wide experience in SAR the closest being the contract in Eire with S61s
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A. Ex Bristow guys already doing the job? Ex Jigsaw crews when they realise that there is a better deal on offer.
B. S61N, 332L2, 225, S92, EH101 your guess is as good as mine
CHC has loads of world wide experience in SAR the closest being the contract in Eire with S61s
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This is the latest story here.
Would the Bristows guys already at the bases have a good chance of retaining their jobs?
Would the Bristows guys already at the bases have a good chance of retaining their jobs?
Rumour that preceded this BBC news story suggested the fleet as a mix of the S92 and the AB139.
Another source suggested that the Coastguard contract is in various packets related to the order of letting the first contracts. So this may be the 'Northern' contract[s] first .... [this is hinted at by the tone of the BBC story].
Perhaps the proposal is AB139s in the south...
Time will clarify.
Another source suggested that the Coastguard contract is in various packets related to the order of letting the first contracts. So this may be the 'Northern' contract[s] first .... [this is hinted at by the tone of the BBC story].
Perhaps the proposal is AB139s in the south...
Time will clarify.
Just looked at the latest news posted by silverknapper. If Bristow are really going to appeal on the grounds of lack of track record of the S92 I feel sorry for you all at Bristow. Presumably those in their ivory towers presume that the S61 will go on forever and win contracts because it has a proven track record!!!!! With mentality like that, I see no hope for you guys ever getting into new technology on the back of a well thought out bid on behalf of your commercial department. The only time you will ever see it, is when it is forced upon you by the oil companies, and then you will get the cheapest on offer at the time!!!!!
If CHC do end up with the contract, then well done to all in the team who put the bid together!!!!!!!!
If CHC do end up with the contract, then well done to all in the team who put the bid together!!!!!!!!
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Would the Bristows guys already at the bases have a good chance of retaining their jobs?
Yes. EU law binds the new contractor to take on the employees of the old contractor whose jobs were dedicated to the said contract.
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Nice one pitchlink, totally agree. This is great news for UK SAR and those in need of a rescue service. Good luck and well done to the MCA and CHC.
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From the chc website
VANCOUVER, Nov. 4 /CNW/ - CHC Helicopter Corporation ("CHC")
(TSX: FLY.SV.A and FLY.MV.B; NYSE: FLI) announced today it has been named by
the United Kingdom Department for Transport ("DfT") as the 'preferred bidder'
to provide commercial Search and Rescue helicopter services from four bases in
the UK for a five-year period commencing July 1, 2007.
DfT and CHC will now negotiate details of the operation with a view to
finalizing a contract for the provision of search and rescue services from
three dedicated civilian-operated bases at Sumburgh, Stornoway and Lee on
Solent on a 24/7 basis, as well as Portland on a day-time only basis. The
awarding of this contract is not assured and remains subject to the
finalization of terms and conditions with the DfT.
CHC currently provides search and rescue and emergency helicopter
services in Ireland, Africa, Australia and Norway. This new contract, if
awarded, would further strengthen CHC's position as world leader in civilian
offshore search and rescue helicopter services and enhance its reputation for
providing expert, cost-effective alternatives to government-run Coast Guard
services.
(TSX: FLY.SV.A and FLY.MV.B; NYSE: FLI) announced today it has been named by
the United Kingdom Department for Transport ("DfT") as the 'preferred bidder'
to provide commercial Search and Rescue helicopter services from four bases in
the UK for a five-year period commencing July 1, 2007.
DfT and CHC will now negotiate details of the operation with a view to
finalizing a contract for the provision of search and rescue services from
three dedicated civilian-operated bases at Sumburgh, Stornoway and Lee on
Solent on a 24/7 basis, as well as Portland on a day-time only basis. The
awarding of this contract is not assured and remains subject to the
finalization of terms and conditions with the DfT.
CHC currently provides search and rescue and emergency helicopter
services in Ireland, Africa, Australia and Norway. This new contract, if
awarded, would further strengthen CHC's position as world leader in civilian
offshore search and rescue helicopter services and enhance its reputation for
providing expert, cost-effective alternatives to government-run Coast Guard
services.
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I stand ready to be corrected but I think you are wrong.
TUPE stands for Transfer of Undertaking Protection of Employment and IIRC is designed precisely to protect the employees when a company is outbid on contract renewal - otherwise the outside bidders could formulate a bid based on minimum wage for the task while the current contractor would be landed with a huge redundancy bill.
Applies to all sorts of undertakings - commonest demo is when the cleaner turns up in a different uniform one morning - different contractor, different contract, same staff.
Sven
I stand ready to be corrected but I think you are wrong.
TUPE stands for Transfer of Undertaking Protection of Employment and IIRC is designed precisely to protect the employees when a company is outbid on contract renewal - otherwise the outside bidders could formulate a bid based on minimum wage for the task while the current contractor would be landed with a huge redundancy bill.
Applies to all sorts of undertakings - commonest demo is when the cleaner turns up in a different uniform one morning - different contractor, different contract, same staff.
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TUPE
As one who has appeared in the high court as a result of a failed TUPE action in 1995 ( as UK company manager - we lost the case but won on appeal) I can add that from memory the judges ruling hinged on the fact that helicopters are not brooms and brushes. The fact that we supplied a different product (S76B) compared with the encumbant (S76A) meant that, in the appeal judge's opinion the business entity had not been transferred. It was deemed to be a different contract not the same contract transferred.
The pain and agony caused (unnecessarily) by the previous contractor by deeming that their employees had been transferred meant that:
a. we could not employ them, and
b. they could not get unemployment benefit because the social services maintained that they were still employed.
I shudder every time I hear that dreaded acronym.
G
The pain and agony caused (unnecessarily) by the previous contractor by deeming that their employees had been transferred meant that:
a. we could not employ them, and
b. they could not get unemployment benefit because the social services maintained that they were still employed.
I shudder every time I hear that dreaded acronym.
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Need a legal opinion on T.U.P.E. If you google T.U.P.E. you will find the relevenat U.K. /E.U. law regarding T.U.P.E. and my read of it suggets that it would apply.
The laws have changed a bit in recent years... certainly in 2003... and I think they are being looked at again.
The laws have changed a bit in recent years... certainly in 2003... and I think they are being looked at again.
