Bell 206: JetRanger and LongRanger
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The uniball is on the pilot side of the hydraulics
[QUOTE=GLSNightPilot],The uniball is on the pilot side of the hydraulics
Is it on the pilots side???? of the hydraulics..I thought the controls come up through the Broom closet to the hydraulics then to the swashplate.
Is it on the pilots side???? of the hydraulics..I thought the controls come up through the Broom closet to the hydraulics then to the swashplate.
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up and go: GLS might be referring to the 'ball' at the base of the cyclic stick where the friction mechanism works.
Although only speculation I'd still be saying there is a high friction setting in the s/plate uniball, especially if it occurs after a certain period of flight .... but as beetles has added, a clogging hyd. filter may be a possibility.
Although only speculation I'd still be saying there is a high friction setting in the s/plate uniball, especially if it occurs after a certain period of flight .... but as beetles has added, a clogging hyd. filter may be a possibility.
JetRanger ski basket
Does anyone know where I can find a ski basket to fit a Bell JetRanger? Looking for one for the Australian ski season, only a few months away: how time flies when you're having fun 
PM or e mail [email protected] , please. Or post here, of course........
PM or e mail [email protected] , please. Or post here, of course........
Hi John. Give the guys at the Helicopter Line in NZ a call. While they don't use 206's anymore, they used to have quite a few, and used them for heli-skiing in the old days before the Squirrel came along. They should be able to point you in the right direction.
There phone number in Queenstown is: +64 3 442 3034
Keith Miles? is the CP I think.
There phone number in Queenstown is: +64 3 442 3034
Keith Miles? is the CP I think.
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John,
There is always Dart.. but the baskets are heavy and have a reduced vne. I dont know what it is like in OZ but in the states you can get a flight approval 337. Check this out, it is a fabricated ski rack for the 206. it is alum. welded and mounted across the skid tubes like a basket , , real light, skis secured by bungees. Classic helicopters in SLC UT uses them. Firepilot, may have better pic's than this , it is the only one I could find on the web.
Its a pretty slick setup.
The other option would be a fiberglass pod like the one on the Astar I flew last summer. It weighs 65 pounds and has no vne, it is a 337 too..
RB
There is always Dart.. but the baskets are heavy and have a reduced vne. I dont know what it is like in OZ but in the states you can get a flight approval 337. Check this out, it is a fabricated ski rack for the 206. it is alum. welded and mounted across the skid tubes like a basket , , real light, skis secured by bungees. Classic helicopters in SLC UT uses them. Firepilot, may have better pic's than this , it is the only one I could find on the web.
Its a pretty slick setup.
The other option would be a fiberglass pod like the one on the Astar I flew last summer. It weighs 65 pounds and has no vne, it is a 337 too..
RB
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Found on another Pprune post
John, try this link
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...40#post1644240
There is a great picture posted there by 407 Driver. He may be able to help.
CYHeli.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...40#post1644240
There is a great picture posted there by 407 Driver. He may be able to help.
CYHeli.
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John, your recently retired buddy (DSW) may be able to help you, as most of the 206's are now gone ( only 4 remaining ). In theory, there should be a pile of used baskets somewhere....
Thanks for all the help: I'm still trying around the world, but a lot of very useful pointers. 407, Dave didn't want to sell any a couple of years ago, but I'll see if the new management have changed their mind. Do you have a contact there, please?
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I'll see if I can get some pictures of our ski racks up if I can. I don't know if they will be of any use to you or not. They were designed by the guys at Wasatch Powderbird Guides years ago. I know if you tried to get a 337 on them now you're out of luck. The process might be easier down there. The ones we use on the L-3/L-4 weigh 15lbs (around 7kg). It doesn't really affect the speed of the ship the way a basket does, which is a bonus as far as the 206 series goes. Let me know.
Bell 206 Skids
Quick question guys, why is it more prefferable to have low skids on 206's, have heard alot of people moaning about high skid ones. Is there something to do with touchdown autos? Also have noticed the tail sits very low with the low skids, does this cause any problems?
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Low skids better for training as the ground attitude is good for touchdown autos and close to the hover attitude, also they have less drag. However they can't be fitted with pop out floats. The older type of high skids with pop outs are not supposed to be used for any type of run-on landing.
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In Canada you would be hard pressed to find a low skid 206. That's because most 206s are used in bush work with all sorts of stuff on the ground like rocks and debris that can damage the "bathtub" - underbelly.
Bell skids
Hi Tip,
with the low skids itīs easier to land, because you have more ground cushion and its cooler, to do low flying, only three feet of the ground ;-)
With the high skids, you have less danger while doing rotorrunning passengers changes - and more possibilities to do outside landings without endangering the belly.
Unfortunately the C/G is higher with high skids - so you have to be careful doing autorotations.
Greetings
Flying Bull
with the low skids itīs easier to land, because you have more ground cushion and its cooler, to do low flying, only three feet of the ground ;-)
With the high skids, you have less danger while doing rotorrunning passengers changes - and more possibilities to do outside landings without endangering the belly.
Unfortunately the C/G is higher with high skids - so you have to be careful doing autorotations.
Greetings
Flying Bull
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A friend of mine had high skids on his 206 and had a dynamic rollover incident, he was pretty new to the 206. I was informed that lower skids are better to start with due to C&G etc.
Just an osbservation.....
Just an osbservation.....
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Originally Posted by rotornut
In Canada you would be hard pressed to find a low skid 206. That's because most 206s are used in bush work with all sorts of stuff on the ground like rocks and debris that can damage the "bathtub" - underbelly.
RH