Canada: Training & Employment prospects
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FAA CPL/IR to Canadian ATPL
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I have been searching around on this forum trying to find out where to go to get a Canadian ATPL-H (I currently hold a FAA CPL/IR and meet all the hour requirements), but it seems most of the posts are about converting a FAA CPL to a Canadian CPL. Could anyone point me in the right direction here?
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I have been searching around on this forum trying to find out where to go to get a Canadian ATPL-H (I currently hold a FAA CPL/IR and meet all the hour requirements), but it seems most of the posts are about converting a FAA CPL to a Canadian CPL. Could anyone point me in the right direction here?
Thanks
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To get a Canadian ATP you require a type rating on a machine that requires two pilots, and the only ones in Canada that require this are the Super Puma and the S61 (and of course the 92). otherwise, the 212, S76, etc only require two pilots under IFR - but this is OK as a workaround.
This means that, effectively, you can only get an ATP from inside a company unless you have an ICAO licence with the type ratings and over 10 hours on type:
(5) Credits for Foreign Applicants
(a) Qualifying Flight Requirement
The holder of a license issued by a Contracting State shall be considered to have met the qualifying flight requirement specified in (3)(c)(iii), (3)(g)(iii), (3)(k)(ii), and (3)(l) above provided the applicant has acquired a minimum of 10 hours pilot-in-command flight time on the appropriate aircraft type during the 12 months preceding the application for rating;
Any holder of a Canadian CPL or ATP (with a type rating) can do the training (form available from TC)
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This means that, effectively, you can only get an ATP from inside a company unless you have an ICAO licence with the type ratings and over 10 hours on type:
(5) Credits for Foreign Applicants
(a) Qualifying Flight Requirement
The holder of a license issued by a Contracting State shall be considered to have met the qualifying flight requirement specified in (3)(c)(iii), (3)(g)(iii), (3)(k)(ii), and (3)(l) above provided the applicant has acquired a minimum of 10 hours pilot-in-command flight time on the appropriate aircraft type during the 12 months preceding the application for rating;
Any holder of a Canadian CPL or ATP (with a type rating) can do the training (form available from TC)
phil
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Aussie bush pilots in Canada
I've tried the search function but can't find the info I'm after so at the risk of upsetting the regulars here goes again. I'm particularly interested in replies from Canadian operators or Aussie expats that work seasonally in Canada -
1. Is there a market for Australian bush pilots in Canada?
2. Which school in Canada has the best reputation in the industry for this type of training (I need a turbine end. & licence conversion)?
I have approx 2500 hrs made up of mustering, Ag 2, firelighting, sling, powerlines etc mostly R22 & R44 - no turbine time. The call of the wild wakes me up at night & Canada has a pretty loud call!
I've done the research on visas, licence conversions, airfares etc so I'm just after a few finer details. Standing by.
1. Is there a market for Australian bush pilots in Canada?
2. Which school in Canada has the best reputation in the industry for this type of training (I need a turbine end. & licence conversion)?
I have approx 2500 hrs made up of mustering, Ag 2, firelighting, sling, powerlines etc mostly R22 & R44 - no turbine time. The call of the wild wakes me up at night & Canada has a pretty loud call!
I've done the research on visas, licence conversions, airfares etc so I'm just after a few finer details. Standing by.
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Aussie Bush Pilots in Canada
Hi HD,
I worked in Canada some years ago. But when I went over there and before I did my licence at the beginning of the season, I called a bundle of operators and had no joy. I too had 2500hrs, etc, etc.
I went ahead anyhow and did my conversion, only to be bowled over with job offers. Basically it is a matter of just biting the bullet, going over there and try your luck. Each season is dfferent, but most are busy and short of pilots. I did my licence in Langley, BC. Look on the web, and they were great. Hope this helps.
I worked in Canada some years ago. But when I went over there and before I did my licence at the beginning of the season, I called a bundle of operators and had no joy. I too had 2500hrs, etc, etc.
I went ahead anyhow and did my conversion, only to be bowled over with job offers. Basically it is a matter of just biting the bullet, going over there and try your luck. Each season is dfferent, but most are busy and short of pilots. I did my licence in Langley, BC. Look on the web, and they were great. Hope this helps.
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I can't be too hard, there's so many Aussies here these days that I'm starting to speak with an accent...!
There are many schools who will offer the conversion, and with your time it shouldn't be too hard as you meet almost all the hour mins for most clients. PM Steve76, he's your man for info, but is slaving away in the Yukon at the moment flying his ass off.
RH
There are many schools who will offer the conversion, and with your time it shouldn't be too hard as you meet almost all the hour mins for most clients. PM Steve76, he's your man for info, but is slaving away in the Yukon at the moment flying his ass off.
RH
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm not a gambling man but it sounds like it might be worth the airfare to give it a go. I might need to get into some running training though if you have those bloody things wandering around the bush! BY CRIKEY I'd like to see Steve Irwin kiss that on the chops. It might bite his bloody head off & give us all some peace.
I'm not a gambling man but it sounds like it might be worth the airfare to give it a go. I might need to get into some running training though if you have those bloody things wandering around the bush! BY CRIKEY I'd like to see Steve Irwin kiss that on the chops. It might bite his bloody head off & give us all some peace.
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I would have to say not to worry about the jet ranger endorsement. With your amount of hours I am pretty sure that where ever you go they will probably endorse you anyway. I got here with less than 1000 hours Robby time and I had a 206 and a 500 endorsement in my first month of work.Doing the conversion is pretty easy. A number of schools here offer it. The one I went to in Langley got the job done but they were pretty shady. If you are serious about doing this I am sure you have already searched a few out. I dont think you will have trouble finding work. So bite the bullet and never look back.
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Visa???
Hi guys.
Can someone tell me what sort of visa is required for Aussies going to Canada and how easy it is to get it? I've heard that if your under 30 you can get a work permit pretty easy, is that right?
Thanks. Sammy.
Can someone tell me what sort of visa is required for Aussies going to Canada and how easy it is to get it? I've heard that if your under 30 you can get a work permit pretty easy, is that right?
Thanks. Sammy.
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Canada ????
What are my chances of landing a job flying light turbines in Canada??? My flight time is 1700tt R22, all mustering, 5000tt in Gyrocopters all mustering, have no endorsements yet on turbines. Would it be wise to do the endorsements in Canada or Australia??? Any help would be much appreciated, especially on what has to be done to get there flight licence.
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Canada ????
What are my chances of landing a job flying light turbines in Canada??? My flight time is 1700tt R22, all mustering, 5000tt in Gyrocopters all mustering, have no endorsements yet on turbines. Would it be wise to do the endorsements in Canada or Australia??? Any help would be much appreciated, especially on what has to be done to get there flight licence.
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Ah mate, if a guy luike steve76 can get work in Canada you'll have no troubles.
Advice, go soon, do your lic conversion, start pestering airbore, greatslave, and the other likely suspects, go on a big road trip visit em all, drink beer with the fellas and you will have a visa and a job come sping.
good luck..
be weary them canooks can drink beer
RB
Advice, go soon, do your lic conversion, start pestering airbore, greatslave, and the other likely suspects, go on a big road trip visit em all, drink beer with the fellas and you will have a visa and a job come sping.
good luck..
be weary them canooks can drink beer
RB
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Ah mate, if a guy luike steve76 can get work in Canada you'll have no troubles.
Advice, go soon, do your lic conversion, start pestering airbore, greatslave, and the other likely suspects, go on a big road trip visit em all, drink beer with the fellas and you will have a visa and a job come sping.
good luck..
be weary them canooks can drink beer
RB
Advice, go soon, do your lic conversion, start pestering airbore, greatslave, and the other likely suspects, go on a big road trip visit em all, drink beer with the fellas and you will have a visa and a job come sping.
good luck..
be weary them canooks can drink beer
RB
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Canadian ATP training
Does anyone have current info and recommendations regarding Flight training in Canada.
I hold an FAA ATP(FW) with commercial privileges:Rotorcraft helicopter.
Need a Helo ATP for a job I'm focussing on.
(VFR-but they want the ATP anyway)
I meet all the flight time requirements and have a bunch of FW instument time, but no helo instrument ;
Except the basic instrument I got doing the helo add-on 25 years ago...
Thanks for any suggestions?
Buck
I hold an FAA ATP(FW) with commercial privileges:Rotorcraft helicopter.
Need a Helo ATP for a job I'm focussing on.
(VFR-but they want the ATP anyway)
I meet all the flight time requirements and have a bunch of FW instument time, but no helo instrument ;
Except the basic instrument I got doing the helo add-on 25 years ago...
Thanks for any suggestions?
Buck
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For a canadian ATP you need a type rating on an machine that requires two pilots, which officially is the S61/Super Puma (and the 92 of course), but can include the 212 and 76 under IFR. if you already have it on a licence and are current, you will likely get it included with the initial issue.
Phil
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