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BMM389EC 6th February 2012 12:51

HAT and DA
 
Hi All

Can anyone give a run down on the difference between these two?

zerozero 6th February 2012 16:49

More info in the Introduction of Jeppesen charts if you have them handy.

But in a nutshell:

HAT = Height Above Threshold

DA = Decision Altitude

DA is associated with precisions approaches (electronic glideslope).

DA is the altitude above mean sea level at which the pilot must have certain visual cues (e.g. lights) in sight in order to continue lower towards touchdown.

DH (= Decision Height) is the difference between DA (in MSL) and the elevation of the particular runway threshold.

MDA = Minimum Descent Altitude and is associated with non-precision approaches (no electronic glideslope).

HAT is the difference between MDA and the elevation of the particular runway threshold when landing "straight in" (more or less).

If circling then HAA = Height Above Airport and is the difference between MDA and airport elevation because you could conceivably circle to land any runway (unless stipulated as circling prohibited).

FYI = For Your Information.
Professional pilots continually confuse the terms DA, DH and MDA.

Your attention to detail will separate you from the rest.

:}

galaxy flyer 6th February 2012 18:02


Professional pilots continually confuse the terms DA, DH and MDA.
They do? I sure hope not.

GF

604guy 6th February 2012 19:38


Professional pilots continually confuse the terms DA, DH and MDA
Surely you jest!? :(

If that were true then "continually confuse the terms DA, DH and MDA" certainly negates this "Professional pilots"

zerozero 6th February 2012 22:38

I'm as serious as a heart attack.

And don't call me Shirley.

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Denti 7th February 2012 02:43


DA is associated with precisions approaches (electronic glideslope).
Not entirely correct anymore, nowadays a DA instead of a MDA is normal for a non precision approach as well.

Natstrackalpha 7th February 2012 14:54

DA DH MDA
 
Don`t forget the important bit - the most important bit, like:

what you may do at the MDA if nothing seen compared to what you must do at the DH if nothing seen - thought it worth a mention . . .

Denti 7th February 2012 15:19

True, under non-EU-OPS rules.

zerozero 7th February 2012 17:55

I just intended to provide a "nutshell" (as I said) summary.

I realize there are many, many little details we could pick at, but for someone who just asked about the different between HAT and DA, I think he has enough to chew on for the moment.

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